What does it mean when people say that a wife should be treated like a queen?

i herd a bukh saying/quote once, I dont rember how it goes... :innoc08:

It said a man is considered rich when he has a good wife who he respects and who he treats like a queen.
:bplease:

This is the bukharian saying it says: if the wife treats her husband like a king she, she becomes wife of the King(Queen), if she treats her husband like a beggar she becomes the wife of a beggar."

Same goes for the guys if you treat your wives like queens they will treat you like kings. :kiss2:

This is the bukharian saying it says: if the wife treats her husband like a king she, she becomes wife of the King(Queen), if she treats her husband like a beggar she becomes the wife of a beggar."

Same goes for the guys if you treat your wives like queens they will treat you like kings. :kiss2:

Zolotie slova :party11: :party15: :party29: :party29: :party15:

This is the bukharian saying it says: if the wife treats her husband like a king she, she becomes wife of the King(Queen), if she treats her husband like a beggar she becomes the wife of a beggar."

Same goes for the guys if you treat your wives like queens they will treat you like kings. :kiss2:
lol, do you have/khow the original sayingnot the translatin? And I dont think it was that long unless you were explaiining it in your post... :party20:

This is the bukharian saying it says: if the wife treats her husband like a king she, she becomes wife of the King(Queen), if she treats her husband like a beggar she becomes the wife of a beggar."

Same goes for the guys if you treat your wives like queens they will treat you like kings. :kiss2:

This is a little backwards. It should say, "if the husband treats his wife like a queen, she will make him into a king."

This is a little backwards. It should say, "if the husband treats his wife like a queen, she will make him into a king."

What if the wifey is a blood-sucking serpent from day one? What if she treats her husband like a doormat and doesn't consider anything he has to say? Some women don't even see when their husband treats them well, they begin taking it for granted, its never enough for them. Their overbearing character will be obvious and one day the husband just wont take it anymore! :).

What if the wifey is a blood-sucking serpent from day one? What if she treats her husband like a doormat and doesn't consider anything he has to say? Some women don't even see when their husband treats them well, they begin taking it for granted, its never enough for them. Their overbearing character will be obvious and one day the husband just wont take it anymore! :).

Why are you always so negative?! If you marry such a woman maybe you deserve it for being fool enough to marry her in the first place. However, that is usually not the case, especially among Bukharians. When girls marry, they do not want to become mean and witchy. The want to be good wives and make their marriage work. But their husbands need to meet them half way-that's not to say they don't.

Why are you always so negative?! If you marry such a woman maybe you deserve it for being fool enough to marry her in the first place. However, that is usually not the case, especially among Bukharians. When girls marry, they do not want to become mean and witchy. The want to be good wives and make their marriage work. But their husbands need to meet them half way-that's not to say they don't.

Difficult to find a sweet and attractive girl these days. Most of the cute ones are evil!! Thats why I don't mind if a girl is religious, atleast there are more chances of getting some sort of balance of both.

Difficult to find a sweet and attractive girl these days. Most of the cute ones are evil!! Thats why I don't mind if a girl is religious, atleast there are more chances of getting some sort of balance of both.


Wait, I am a bit confused here...are you tryiing to say that religious = not so pretty, or not evil? :bplease: What balance are you talking about?

Difficult to find a sweet and attractive girl these days. Most of the cute ones are evil!! Thats why I don't mind if a girl is religious, atleast there are more chances of getting some sort of balance of both.
You don't mind if she is religious, but are u? wat makes you think a religious girl would want you.

Wait, I am a bit confused here...are you tryiing to say that religious = not so pretty, or not evil? :bplease: What balance are you talking about?

No, I am saying that religious girls have more chances being both attractive and very kind/sweet/decent and respectful towards their spouses.

No, I am saying that religious girls have more chances being both attractive and very kind/sweet/decent and respectful towards their spouses.
hmmm, I hope youa re religious as well...

No, I am saying that religious girls have more chances being both attractive and very kind/sweet/decent and respectful towards their spouses.
Religious girls can be just as evil. It's the law of probability, can't escape it. It all depends on the up bringing and a non religious girl can be just as good of a combo. Keep searching and believing, I am sure one day you''ll find her, religious or not. :)

Wхат доес ит меан wхен пеопле саы тхат а wифе шоулд бе треатед лике а qуеен?
Это когда, "настоящий мужчина узнается по женщине".... :happy05: :happy29:

Can you be a little more specific and tell me what should a husband do (in details) to treat his wife like a queen.

hmmm, I hope youa re religious as well...

I'm moderately observant. Shabbat (to a high degree), Kosher, Tefellin..

Religious girls can be just as evil. It's the law of probability, can't escape it. It all depends on the up bringing and a non religious girl can be just as good of a combo. Keep searching and believing, I am sure one day you''ll find her, religious or not. :)

Thank you. I happen to be a Taurus, and my ruling planet is Venus :). Planet of beauty and love I as I recall.. :innoc08:

Can you be a little more specific and tell me what should a husband do (in details) to treat his wife like a queen.

Complement her, especially in the presence of others to make her feel good about herself.
Help her with house chores, which shows that you do not find housework beneath you, and therefore only her chore.
Take her out occassionally to keep the romance in your relationship.
Remember important dates, ie. birthday, anniversary, valentine's day <--depending on how you look at it, Tu B'av, etc.
Make her feel that you can't live without her, basically...but PLEASE don't turn yourself into a wimp because she will lose her respect for you.

I'm moderately observant. Shabbat (to a high degree), Kosher, Tefellin..
cool! :party11:

You don't mind if she is religious, but are u? wat makes you think a religious girl would want you.

I wont bother with the brainwashed fanatics.. "Dotishki" as they are referred to in Bukharian. They are like zombies.. If she doesn't, too bad, chances are I wouldn't want her either.. I can be very pursuasive and manipulative, all I need is a chance with her to see if she is "convertible" :D.

I think the perfect relationship is when husband says :sign66: and the wife answers :master:

I think the perfect relationship is when husband says :sign66: and the wife answers :master:
WOW....Somebody is way too controling....... :mad25:

WOW....Somebody is way too controling....... :mad25:

Do you agree or disagree with my comment?

Do you agree or disagree with my comment?
Disagree

Complement her, especially in the presence of others to make her feel good about herself.
Help her with house chores, which shows that you do not find housework beneath you, and therefore only her chore.
Take her out occassionally to keep the romance in your relationship.
Remember important dates, ie. birthday, anniversary, valentine's day <--depending on how you look at it, Tu B'av, etc.
Make her feel that you can't live without her, basically...but PLEASE don't turn yourself into a wimp because she will lose her respect for you.

This is a very good list, and I agree with most (if not all) of it. I guess where I am confused is how does a man do all these things and still not turn into a wimp?

I think the perfect relationship is when husband says :sign66: and the wife answers :master:


are you married yet? If not, your reasoning is possibly the cause.

I wont bother with the brainwashed fanatics.. "Dotishki" as they are referred to in Bukharian. They are like zombies.. If she doesn't, too bad, chances are I wouldn't want her either.. I can be very pursuasive and manipulative, all I need is a chance with her to see if she is "convertible" :D.
I think ur the brainwashed fanatic, w/ ur reasoning. They r not like zombies, they are more human then u can possibly be. And wat makes u think that she will convert to ur preverted world.

I think ur the brainwashed fanatic, w/ ur reasoning. They r not like zombies, they are more human then u can possibly be. And wat makes u think that she will convert to ur preverted world.

LOL My "perverted world"?? Why is my world so perverse? I believe in family values, spirituality & philosophy.. Those are pre-requisites for any religion. These days many are religious and act like suppressed robots. Deep inside most have deep resentment and are unhappy because they don't understand the BASICS..

I don't like people who "DO", without truely knowing WHY with a universal understanding and not based on what was dictated and forced upon them in yeshiva. Spirituality and Theosophical understanding is very important for me. I personally think that Judaism went overboard over the past 1000 years..

Its interesting how the Torah says that nothing can be added or taken away from the Torah, but the sages managed to find a loop hole over the centuries. They justify this by saying that it is allowed to create laws that protect the Torah laws (buffer zone). It became more like a paranoia zone. because of these "protective laws" people's lives have turned into dark miserable jokes..

per·verse (pər-vûrs', pûr'vûrs')
adj.
Directed away from what is right or good; perverted.
Obstinately persisting in an error or fault; wrongly self-willed or stubborn.

Marked by a disposition to oppose and contradict.
Arising from such a disposition.
Cranky; peevish.

Now think about whos world is TRULY PERVERTED.

LOL My "perverted world"?? Why is my world so perverse? I believe in family values, spirituality & philosophy.. Those are pre-requisites for any religion. These days many are religious and act like suppressed robots. Deep inside most have deep resentment and are unhappy because they don't understand the BASICS..

I don't like people who "DO", without truely knowing WHY with a universal understanding and not based on what was dictated and forced upon them in yeshiva. Spirituality and Theosophical understanding is very important for me. I personally think that Judaism went overboard over the past 1000 years..

Its interesting how the Torah says that nothing can be added or taken away from the Torah, but the sages managed to find a loop hole over the centuries. They justify this by saying that it is allowed to create laws that protect the Torah laws (buffer zone). It became more like a paranoia zone. because of these "protective laws" people's lives have turned into dark miserable jokes..

per·verse (pər-vûrs', pûr'vûrs')
adj.
Directed away from what is right or good; perverted.
Obstinately persisting in an error or fault; wrongly self-willed or stubborn.

Marked by a disposition to oppose and contradict.
Arising from such a disposition.
Cranky; peevish.

Now think about whos world is TRULY PERVERTED.
Some are not happy that they are religious not many. And if they are not happy and feel like "surpressed robots" these pple are not going to last long. Being religious is not a burden it's beauty. And people have to ask "why" b/c there have to be questions, i don't think any one can become religious w/o asking questions. Judaism did not go overbaoard, there is a halakha in the Torah that we have to follow what our rabbis say, and if they feel the need to add protective boarders, it's b/c they are well aware of the changes in the world and know that it's neccasary. And maybe ur life is a miserable joke but not the lives of religious pple. The main point is for a person to see the beauty of it. W/o knowing the beauty you can't understand or accept anything. And are you describing urself as a perverse, b/c u do seem to match the definition.

Some are not happy that they are religious not many. And if they are not happy and feel like "surpressed robots" these pple are not going to last long. Being religious is not a burden it's beauty. And people have to ask "why" b/c there have to be questions, i don't think any one can become religious w/o asking questions. Judaism did not go overbaoard, there is a halakha in the Torah that we have to follow what our rabbis say, and if they feel the need to add protective boarders, it's b/c they are well aware of the changes in the world and know that it's neccasary. And maybe ur life is a miserable joke but not the lives of religious pple. The main point is for a person to see the beauty of it. W/o knowing the beauty you can't understand or accept anything. And are you describing urself as a perverse, b/c u do seem to match the definition.

READ MY THREAD ABOUT "FENCES OF HOLINESS". Its by a Rabbi. Its the truth. He will make sense to you, but it really will amaze and inform others..

I think ur the brainwashed fanatic, w/ ur reasoning. They r not like zombies, they are more human then u can possibly be. And wat makes u think that she will convert to ur preverted world.

Don't get offended by Executive very amusing statement. Each one see's it on his or her level. Defense brings more defense. Since we are all bukharian, we all know how some bukharians think about religion. No wonder there are many "traditional" ones. At any rate, if anyone had seen his or her grand grand mother, they would see how religous they were. I'm not talking about grandmothers, but about grand grand. Always covered and very well respected. Thanks to communism that has changed a generation to the opposite side. Like Lenin said "Relegiya eta opiyum naroda."

Most people say that we live in a civilized world were there wasnt technology and torah is kinda behind. That's the ones who are slowly intergrating into American nationality and soon, I would say in 50 years, they will be all intermarried. Maybe the "zombies" who follow very strict laws are the ones who carry the jewish religion through out thousands of years?

If you have treasure, lets say golds and diamonds, won't you protect it? Won't you build a fense with a good defense mechanism?
So the Rabbicals laws are the defense mechanism from the Yeter hara (our desire). They do not add a law, they just protect it. So to we do not add diamonds, we protect them. :)

Like Lenin said "Relegiya eta opiyum naroda."



I thought Marx said that, but Lenin may have repeated his words!!! ;)

Don't get offended by Executive very amusing statement. Each one see's it on his or her level. Defense brings more defense. Since we are all bukharian, we all know how some bukharians think about religion. No wonder there are many "traditional" ones. At any rate, if anyone had seen his or her grand grand mother, they would see how religous they were. I'm not talking about grandmothers, but about grand grand. Always covered and very well respected. Thanks to communism that has changed a generation to the opposite side. Like Lenin said "Relegiya eta opiyum naroda."

Most people say that we live in a civilized world were there wasnt technology and torah is kinda behind. That's the ones who are slowly intergrating into American nationality and soon, I would say in 50 years, they will be all intermarried. Maybe those "zombies" are the ones who carry the jewish religion through out thousands of years?

If you have treasure, lets say golds and diamonds, won't you protect it? Won't you build a fense with a good defense mechanism?
So the Rabbicals laws are the defense mechanism from the Yeter hara (our desire). They do not add a law, they just protect it. So to we do not add diamonds, we protect them. :)

I FULLY AGREE about importance of traditions, family values, respect to others, understanding spirituality and wisdom of life, and living life with boundaries. Communism destroyed everything like an atomic bomb. Not leaving evena trace of decency. I am totally against living a life with no limits and violating TORAH LAWS. HOWEVER, I don't believe about living a cult follower existance heeding to each microscopic rabbinical law ever decreed. That zombifies an individual and takes away the most precious element given to us by G-d which is liberty and free will.

Our great grand mothers dressed and lived that way more because of their muslim surroundings, women wearing burkas, 97% covered. Islamic customs. Islam is Judaism on steroids with some mutated elements...

Don't compare 2 extremes: Communist resulted bezabrazia with Fanatical Judaism. I think most moderately observant Bukharian families who observe shabbat, kosher, morning prayers and high holidays but most importantly raise their children with VALUES and wisdom of life do more than enough.. Everyone can aknowledge G-d is their own ways.

Communism destroyed everything like an atomic bomb.

Oh come on now...I like being a Pioneer!!!!! ;)

I thought Marx said that, but Lenin may have repeated his words!!! ;)


I'm sure they are holding hands now. :party11:
Marx.. Lenin.. what's the difference :)

I'm sure they are holding hands now. :party11:
Marx.. Lenin.. what's the difference :)

I agree....:) :party11: :party15:

Don't get offended by Executive very amusing statement. Each one see's it on his or her level. Defense brings more defense. Since we are all bukharian, we all know how some bukharians think about religion. No wonder there are many "traditional" ones. At any rate, if anyone had seen his or her grand grand mother, they would see how religous they were. I'm not talking about grandmothers, but about grand grand. Always covered and very well respected. Thanks to communism that has changed a generation to the opposite side. Like Lenin said "Relegiya eta opiyum naroda." [/QOUTE]
I think Lenin destroyed religion.

[QOUTE=Code9]Most people say that we live in a civilized world were there wasnt technology and torah is kinda behind. That's the ones who are slowly intergrating into American nationality and soon, I would say in 50 years, they will be all intermarried. Maybe the "zombies" who follow very strict laws are the ones who carry the jewish religion through out thousands of years?

If you have treasure, lets say golds and diamonds, won't you protect it? Won't you build a fense with a good defense mechanism?
So the Rabbicals laws are the defense mechanism from the Yeter hara (our desire). They do not add a law, they just protect it. So to we do not add diamonds, we protect them. :)
Torah is made to fit into any generation and at all times. and can u please not say "zombies" cause thats not how they are. And u are 100% correct about the diamonds, we have to protect them. Thanks:)

READ MY THREAD ABOUT "FENCES OF HOLINESS". Its by a Rabbi. Its the truth. He will make sense to you, but it really will amaze and inform others..
Sense of me? i read it and it seems to be agreeing w/ me.

I FULLY AGREE about importance of traditions, family values, respect to others, understanding spirituality and wisdom of life, and living life with boundaries. Communism destroyed everything like an atomic bomb. Not leaving evena trace of decency. I am totally against living a life with no limits and violating TORAH LAWS. HOWEVER, I don't believe about living a cult follower existance heeding to each microscopic rabbinical law ever decreed. That zombifies an individual and takes away the most precious element given to us by G-d which is liberty and free will.

Our great grand mothers dressed and lived that way more because of their muslim surroundings, women wearing burkas, 97% covered. Islamic customs. Islam is Judaism on steroids with some mutated elements...

Don't compare 2 extremes: Communist resulted bezabrazia with Fanatical Judaism. I think most moderately observant Bukharian families who observe shabbat, kosher, morning prayers and high holidays but most importantly raise their children with VALUES and wisdom of life do more than enough.. Everyone can aknowledge G-d is their own ways.


Indeed! they were effected by their surrounding. Music, pray tone and many other. However, cover hair is from the Torah. And who said muslims are not from Avraham? They are more extremists, alright I'm not protecting muslims here, so let's not get our hopes high. ;)
What I'm trying to say that, in those times modesty was fine. Now, since we have freedom and do what we want, and who we want :D makes a vulnerable hole in our religion. Like our sages warn us, one sin leads to another. So in order to remove that leading step, we need to stay away from it.

How do we do it? How could we stay away from it, in order not to make it in first place? Or even if you did it once, how not to do it again? It's by protection of the laws.

Judaism is like a bubble gum, as long as it stretches and doesn't rip, its all fine ;)

Indeed! they were effected by their surrounding. Music, pray tone and many other. However, cover hair is from the Torah. And who said muslims are not from Avraham? They are more extremists, alright I'm not protecting muslims here, so let's not get our hopes high. ;)
What I'm trying to say that, in those times modesty was fine. Now, since we have freedom and do what we want, and who we want :D makes a vulnerable hole in our religion. Like our sages warn us, one sin leads to another. So in order to remove that leading step, we need to stay away from it.

How do we do it? How could we stay away from it, in order not to make it in first place? Or even if you did it once, how not to do it again? It's by protection of the laws.

Judaism is like a bubble gum, as long as it stretches and doesn't rip, its all fine ;)

In a perfect world desire to "sin" wouldn't exist would it? So can't we say the act of sinning is subjective? I heard that we have opposites and extremes in life to keep us in balance and leanr from both experiences. As Jews say, there are 2 paths in life: Thru Torah or Thru suffering. But I believe life is about sufferng in order to TRULY LEARN> Its the same thing as book experience and LIFE EXPERIENCE. The wisdom obtained from hardships of life cannot be compared to living by any guide-book.

By the way, on a different note, If lashon Hora is equivalent to murder then I guess Hell will be a very crowded place :).

In a perfect world desire to "sin" wouldn't exist would it? So can't we say the act of sinning is subjective? I heard that we have opposites and extremes in life to keep us in balance and leanr from both experiences. As Jews say, there are 2 paths in life: Thru Torah or Thru suffering. But I believe life is about sufferng in order to TRULY LEARN> Its the same thing as book experience and LIFE EXPERIENCE. The wisdom obtained from hardships of life cannot be compared to living by any guide-book.

By the way, on a different note, If lashon Hora is equivalent to murder then I guess Hell will be a very crowded place :).


Take the short cut road or the long road, but at the end, its the same result.
You are right about lashon hara, we killed soo many people, thats why we lost our Beit Hamekdesh. And it still goes on in our days big time, like an energize bunnies.

Did you ever wonder why people are never satisfied in what they have? Or if some do, they are not satisfied with this world?

Because the soul was created for another world, and the satisfaction is much much higher and that this world can't give us to that level. The real one.

Anyways, lets just speak about something happy, because people reading this thread will fall into depression :kiss2:

u no u 2 r right there is too much loshon hora going on, if each person takes upon themselves to keep loshon hora or even just an individual it will make a difference in the world and maybe we can even rebuilt the bais hamikdash in our times. but also i think i rather do something usefull with life and to do that i think i should take the shortcute and follow the book that has experience which is the torah,and by doing that i think ill be happy with myself and with my life.

u no u 2 r right there is too much loshon hora going on, if each person takes upon themselves to keep loshon hora or even just an individual it will make a difference in the world and maybe we can even rebuilt the bais hamikdash in our times. but also i think i rather do something usefull with life and to do that i think i should take the shortcute and follow the book that has experience which is the torah,and by doing that i think ill be happy with myself and with my life.

Throutout history there were different people, sinners and saints. Even during the days of the Temple. As I recall, during the time of the temple, merchants made a business out of it and had a market setup outside the temple selling animals for sacrifice. Its similar to what our Bukharian low lives do today by selling the Torah on holidays and shabbat. ITS A SIN!!! So since they were such sinners back then, the temple was around and prospered for a few hundred years. I say we stop waiting and rebuild it NOW. Its in our hands to have the temple rebuilt. Someone just has to start the process.

I think the perfect relationship is when husband says :sign66: and the wife answers :master:
guys like that always get ruled by their wives! :tongue10:

Throutout history there were different people, sinners and saints. Even during the days of the Temple. As I recall, during the time of the temple, merchants made a business out of it and had a market setup outside the temple selling animals for sacrifice. Its similar to what our Bukharian low lives do today by selling the Torah on holidays and shabbat. ITS A SIN!!! So since they were such sinners back then, the temple was around and prospered for a few hundred years. I say we stop waiting and rebuild it NOW. Its in our hands to have the temple rebuilt. Someone just has to start the process.
I read in a book called Jewish Literacy, a theory by one of the Rabbi, who said a very interesting thing in regards to Beit haMikdash. He said, "To this day, Orthodox Jews pray 3 times a day for the Temple's restoration. During the centuries, the Muslims controlled Palestine, two mosques were built on the site of the Jewish Temple. (It's a common Islamic custom to build mosques on the sites of other people's holy places). Since any attempt to level these mosques would lead to an international Muslim holy war (jihad) against Israel, the Temple cannot be rebuilt in the foreseeable future." :goof:

Can we really rebuilt Beit haMekdash? Will there ever be a day? Will it ever come, if we try with all our might to stop spreading lashon hara, and observe the laws of Torah and have greater love for G-d than anything/anyone else in this world? :workout: :iprayu:

Can you be a little more specific and tell me what should a husband do (in details) to treat his wife like a queen.

What I am about to say goes both ways, only when these principles are observed by both parties does the union really work and can be called the union of King and Queen.
Note: I am sure this list is endless, and can be expanded according to ones alternative views
a) Mutual respect and understanding are a MUST (and are EARNED as oppose to DEMANDED)
b) Both parties must be aware of each other's strengths and weaknesses BUT NEVER use them against one another
c) Both must support each other's endeavors, what ever they may be
d) Be the guiding light to one another
e) Both must be on each other's priority list
f) ALWAYS remember that any decision making process takes TWO (as oppose to one individual)
g) Remember that soulmates too have struggles and hurdles to overcome, and no relationship is perfect at all times.
I listed very general and broad things only b/c all is relative and cannot be pinpointed. There is not one specific trait or behavior that makes one feel like a King or a Queen, it is a combination of many things through couples daily activities in life.

What I am about to say goes both ways, only when these principles are observed by both parties does the union really work and can be called the union of King and Queen.
Note: I am sure this list is endless, and can be expanded according to ones alternative views
a) Mutual respect and understanding are a MUST (and are EARNED as oppose to DEMANDED)
b) Both parties must be aware of each other's strengths and weaknesses BUT NEVER use them against one another
c) Both must support each other's endeavors, what ever they may be
d) Be the guiding light to one another
e) Both must be on each other's priority list
f) ALWAYS remember that any decision making process takes TWO (as oppose to one individual)
g) Remember that soulmates too have struggles and hurdles to overcome, and no relationship is perfect at all times.
I listed very general and broad things only b/c all is relative and cannot be pinpointed. There is not one specific trait or behavior that makes one feel like a King or a Queen, it is a combination of many things through couples daily activities in life.

I must say, your very wise for your age, not to mention very bright :).

I must say, your very wise for your age, not to mention very bright :).
Age? Don't know what you are talking about, I am the ETERNAL Goddess of love and beauty... :lolb:

I must say, your very wise for your age, not to mention very bright :).


You just gave her an ace card. ;)

Age? Don't know what you are talking about, I am the ETERNAL Goddess of love and beauty... :lolb:

And so charismatic also :).