The word feminist first appeared in print in 1894 and was coined as the adjective for feminism, which appeared in 1851. The agent noun feminist is first recorded in print in 1904. Originally, feminist only referred to women supporters of women’s rights. But the word—whether noun or adjective—now refers to a person of either sex, as in Yes, men can be feminists. Eighty-six percent of the Usage Panel approves of this usage. 1


Why do people view feminists as evil. For example, in different forums, every time any female tries to support women's view many people attack and then call them feminists, as if something is wrong with it. But many people think its ok when males defend their views, which i must point out are not standard. Many of us are used to those rules just because they have been around for many years. And obviously males don't have any problems with those rules because they were created by men. That is they meet their needs. May be mistreatment will begin to decrease when men and women with similar views will understand that a man's way of doing something is not the standard way/ not the right way. Even though it might feel that way, but may be because these rules have been around for long time and many are used to them and don't question it.


I think as many populations get their months, e.g February is for black people, March is for women, there should be a month that will be for men. Men's month. So that they won't feel like they are standard and have no nead for any special treatment. And since we refer to women who protect their rights, a feminists, The we should refer to men who protect their own rights(which they do when they prevent women from achieving their rights) a menilist (hehe, as my sister called them:D).

Not all of them are evil. Only the militant ones who through their unreasonable demands want to destroy social fabric of society. They actually did a huge disservice to women. For example, if men and women are equal, why should men hold doors for them or give up a seat? :bonk:

You know there is a difference between fighting for your rights and taking some one else's (read men's) rights away.

By the way, the proper term for men fighting for their rights would me masculinists. :fight24:

Not all of them are evil. Only the militant ones who
well if we would not have those extemists then nothing would get done. Almost in everything there should be the epicenter.

through their unreasonable demands want to destroy social fabric of society. What is fabric of society? Does it meet everyone's needs?

They actually did a huge disservice to women. For example, if men and women are equal, why should men hold doors for them or give up a seat? :bonk:
everything has its pluses and minuses. Sometimes, and i think in this situation pluses outweight the negatives.
Yes, I do realize that women now have double load. Before they only took care of the house and family, now they work on top of that. But I think women rather have this, than have no voice/no say in a matter.

You know there is a difference between fighting for your rights and taking some one else's (read men's) rights away.

Please elaborate on this one.


By the way, the proper term for men fighting for their rights would me masculinists. :fight24:]
hehehe, I thought about that, but it makes it sounds sexy (at least to me), also it sounds like it's a man who works out. And since it was my sister's idea to come up with the word. It will be menalist. Thank you.:D

well if we would not have those extemists then nothing would get done. Almost in everything there should be the epicenter.

Oh. I see. That's exactly how extremists of all types, including Al-Qaida, think. And since everyone else will benefit from their efforts,that means everyone is complicit in this and there are no "innocents" in anything.

What is fabric of society? Does it meet everyone's needs?
I was talking about gender roles and interaction between people of different genders.

everything has its pluses and minuses. Sometimes, and i think in this situation pluses outweight the negatives.
Yes, I do realize that women now have double load. Before they only took care of the house and family, now they work on top of that. But I think women rather have this, than have no voice/no say in a matter.

You know, what's good for some people is not necessarily good for society. One big minus that resulted from emancipation is that women in the West started having fewer kids or not having them at all, which threatens the survival of the western civilization. This is no laughing matter. Why do you think muslim extemists are pushing on the West now? Because their numbers are increasing and they need more space. They see this weakness as an opportunity for them to take over. :mad54:

Please elaborate on this one.
I meant women are increasingly challenging men in the workplace. That creates a lot of tension and bad will because for men's esteem work is more important that it's for women.

And since it was my sister's idea to come up with the word. It will be menalist. Thank you.:D
And I'll call women fighting for their rights as "womenists", agreed? :sign63:

Feminism, as a movement for equality, had definitely produced a favorable result for humanity.
Equal Opportunity, Universal Suffrage, and Freedom of Expression -- A civil society cannot exist without these intrinsic values.

Yeah, but it also produced some life-threatening side effects. :sign63:

Yeah, but it also produced some life-threatening side effects. :sign63:

I'm not sure what you are referring to.
Please do clarify a particular instance where feminism was life threatening.
I'm not denying that this movement has flaws in it, but life threatening?

Read my previous post#4.

Yeah, but it also produced some life-threatening side effects. :sign63:

life also produces life threatening side effects. People die from it. But like i said before we must look at positive outcome.

Oh. I see. That's exactly how extremists of all types, including Al-Qaida, think. And since everyone else will benefit from their efforts,that means everyone is complicit in this and there are no "innocents" in anything.
That's not how people think, that's how it is. That's the reality of life.



You know, what's good for some people is not necessarily good for society. One big minus that resulted from emancipation is that women in the West started having fewer kids or not having them at all, which threatens the survival of the western civilization. This is no laughing matter. Why do you think muslim extemists are pushing on the West now? Because their numbers are increasing and they need more space. They see this weakness as an opportunity for them to take over. :mad54:

I see your point, but you can't force everyone to reproduce now.



I meant women are increasingly challenging men in the workplace. That creates a lot of tension and bad will because for men's esteem work is more important that it's for women.
1-excuse me but my self esteem also is greately affected by my achievements and my school/career is one of them.
2-The way men treat women affects women's self-esteem.
3-If anyone has self-esteem problems then they should address their emotional issues without putting down others.

You know, what's good for some people is not necessarily good for society. One big minus that resulted from emancipation is that women in the West started having fewer kids or not having them at all, which threatens the survival of the western civilization. This is no laughing matter. Why do you think muslim extemists are pushing on the West now? Because their numbers are increasing and they need more space. They see this weakness as an opportunity for them to take over. :mad54:

The tragedy is not that feminism "plagues" Western civilization, but rather that is doesn't the Muslim one.

I see your point, but you can't force everyone to reproduce now.
You don't have to force anybody, just have a smart policy like this:
http://www.education.theage.com.au/pagedetail.asp?intpageid=1316&strsection=students&intsectionid=0
"Like people in most other industrialised nations, Australians are failing to reproduce themselves. As perhaps befits his role as treasurer, Mr Costello has taken the view that Australians will have more children if they are given more money to do so. In a time of unprecedented affluence, the traditional idea that children are their own reward has been set aside. Wrapped inside Mr Costello's package is a riddle that almost certainly has more than one answer. A few years ago it was posed by Australian demographer Peter McDonald, who asked: "What kind of society cannot even reproduce itself?''

Editorial opinion, The Age, May 14, 2004


1-excuse me but my self esteem also is greately affected by my achievements and my school/career is one of them.

The key words here are "one of them", which is true, but for men it's number 1.

I meant women are increasingly challenging men in the workplace. That creates a lot of tension and bad will because for men's esteem work is more important that it's for women.


I dont' see anything wrong with women challenging men. It's only natural. It's like Darvin's survival of the fittest, if they are good enough, strong enough, why not go lead. In my experience, women bosses are in many ways better than men bosses.

Are you a militant SOF?

Are you a militant SOF?
Just look at my avatar. :sign63: