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Natasha 11-07-2005, 04:03 PM Dear Boojilians,
As you know, Boojle staff, has been working arduously in bringing more and more inspiring lectures to its interested members and guests. With your support and help we can continue to do so on a more frequent basis and in a variety of locations.
Currently, Boojle is attempting to organize lectures in Brooklyn in addition to Queens. (Stay tuned for exact Brooklyn location). To invite world renown speakers, however, is costly, but worth it. If you would like to sponsor any or a specific lecture and or speaker please PM either Olorin or myself. Boojle works with other non-for-profit organizations and will be able to provide you with a receipt for your tax return for sponsoring such community activities.
Thank you.
Dear Boojilians,
As you know, Boojle staff, has been working arduously in bringing more and more inspiring lectures to its interested members and guests. With your support and help we can continue to do so on a more frequent basis and in a variety of locations.
Currently, Boojle is attempting to organize lectures in Brooklyn in addition to Queens. (Stay tuned for exact Brooklyn location). To invite world renown speakers, however, is costly, but worth it. If you would like to sponsor any or a specific lecture and or speaker please PM either Olorin or myself. Boojle works with other non-for-profit organizations and will be able to provide you with a receipt for your tax return for sponsoring such community activities.
Thank you.
Good Idea! "Brooklyn Location"
goldenmalach 11-07-2005, 07:52 PM Is it possible to do in the Rego Park/ Forest Hills area?
Yes, please let's do in Rego Park
chaya 11-08-2005, 11:54 AM Let's be fair to our Brooklyn friends and set up a location in brooklyn too. Natasha that's a wonderful idea. Just name the place, the date and time.:)
Matrix 11-08-2005, 12:00 PM Let's be fair to our Brooklyn friends and set up a location in brooklyn too. Natasha that's a wonderful idea. Just name the place, the date and time.:)
We're working on it.
Natasha 11-08-2005, 12:59 PM Let's be fair to our Brooklyn friends and set up a location in brooklyn too. Natasha that's a wonderful idea. Just name the place, the date and time.:)
Chaya, I cannot take the credit for this idea or the actual planning of the up-coming lectures in Brooklyn. This was Matrix's idea and he is willing to arrange everything.
Dear friends, we try to make the locations convenient to you but fuding these events is an issue. The more funds we have the more we are able to do for you. So if you know of anyone who wishes to sponsor these lectures please send him/her our way. Thank you all.
OceanofMemories 11-08-2005, 07:19 PM Chaya, I cannot take the credit for this idea or the actual planning of the up-coming lectures in Brooklyn. This was Matrix's idea and he is willing to arrange everything.
Dear friends, we try to make the locations convenient to you but fuding these events is an issue. The more funds we have the more we are able to do for you. So if you know of anyone who wishes to sponsor these lectures please send him/her our way. Thank you all.
just wondering...how much does it cost to sponsor one lecture?
Natasha 11-09-2005, 10:44 AM just wondering...how much does it cost to sponsor one lecture?
Guys and gals, in order to buy something substantial and tasty the following are appropriate prices.
1. Cake/cookies and drinks $30-40.
2. Cake/cookies and fruit (possibly fruit platter) - $50.
3. Hot meal: pizza, samsa, manti $100.
If there is any money left it will be used to sponsor future lectures.
OceanofMemories 11-09-2005, 07:15 PM Guys and gals, in order to buy something substantial and tasty the following are appropriate prices.
1. Cake/cookies and drinks $30-40.
2. Cake/cookies and fruit (possibly fruit platter) - $50.
3. Hot meal: pizza, samsa, manti $100.
If there is any money left it will be used to sponsor future lectures.
so thats all? the rabbis dont take money to speak, right? if u really think about it, its not that much money if u only hav to pay for the food. i mean....if that lecture is good enough to inspire even one Jew, its worth everything. thank u :)
Natasha 11-10-2005, 10:13 AM so thats all? the rabbis dont take money to speak, right? if u really think about it, its not that much money if u only hav to pay for the food. i mean....if that lecture is good enough to inspire even one Jew, its worth everything. thank u :)
A lot of rabbis do cost money. However, I have accumulated a list of rabbis who are willing to speak free of charge. Other rabbis, such as R' Rietti, Bechor, Pessach Crone, etc.. cost A LOT of money.
Jewishguy 11-10-2005, 11:20 AM Hmmmmmmm Religion into Business...........interseno.
chaya 11-10-2005, 11:23 AM Hmmmmmmm Religion into Business...........interseno.
E/t is business these days.
Matrix 11-10-2005, 11:26 AM Hmmmmmmm Religion into Business...........interseno.
Ya by skazal - Sredstvo dlya sushestvovaniya a ne Business.
Jew4Life 11-10-2005, 11:33 AM E/t is business these days.
as they say, money talks... :party07:
chaya 11-10-2005, 11:36 AM as they say, money talks... :party07:
Money is the avodah zarah of our days. I am not saying that it shouldn't be important, but one should make sure that one doesn't end up selling his soul to the devil for money.
Jewishguy 11-10-2005, 11:38 AM Ya by skazal - Sredstvo dlya sushestvovaniya a ne Business.
ili sredstvo dlya peredvizheniaya ? v danom sluchae v duhovnii mir.
a interesno poluchaetsya iz duhovnogo mira v materialnii:)
Natasha 11-10-2005, 11:59 AM Guys, stop judging.
I can't believe the poeple who have the audacity to judge rabbis for charging things such as weddings, brits, lectures. These rabbis take times out of their lives, time away from their wives and children to speak and inspire other jews. They do not stay home those evenings and weekends to help their wives with the chores and they are not there to help their children do their homework or to play a game of tennis after school because they are serving our community. Most have day jobs and therefore hardly ever have time for their families. And I give their wives a lot of credit for being able to accept this style of life and to stand by their husbands. So if the rabbis want to charge money for these things that's fine by me. At least with this money they can help their family in a financial way - maybe a housekeeper, or a babysitter, or whatever they need to help their wives while they are away helping and teaching and inspiring total strangers, only because these strangers are Jewish.
So please stop thinking that rabbis are turning religion into business. Would any of YOU spend 4 or 5 nights away from your family to spend that time with strangers. Would YOU be able to hold on to a family that way? Would YOU be able to make that sacrifice and not accept any form of monitory gratitude for your services?
Jewishguy 11-10-2005, 12:17 PM A kak nekotorim rabbayam ne stidno svoi prices stavit?
in my opinion, if a rabbi does something like a wedding or bar mitzva he should not put his price tag on it. ANd the person who is paying for his services should give the amount that he is willing to give from his heart.
nobody is jugding but stating an opinion. Thats why we have forum of here.
A v sinagogax ustroili eti rasprodazhi prosto uzhazno smotret prixodish v synagogye ne molitsya a na etot bazar.
a kto vi dumaete vse eti molitvi pokupaet? vse bogatie ludi. a bednie ludi kotorie xotyat pochitat kadish etogo ne mogut sdelat'.
Systemy nado menyat. I nenado govorit chto eto vse delaetsya potomu chto deneg net. est ludi kotorie daut dengi i ne pokazivaut kto oni est.
Ya dumal chto postroyat novuu synagogye i vse izmenitsya chto budet membership.
Natasha 11-10-2005, 12:30 PM A kak nekotorim rabbayam ne stidno svoi prices stavit?
in my opinion, if a rabbi does something like a wedding or bar mitzva he should not put his price tag on it. ANd the person who is paying for his services should give the amount that he is willing to give from his heart.
nobody is jugding but stating an opinion. Thats why we have forum of here.
A v sinagogax ustroili eti rasprodazhi prosto uzhazno smotret prixodish v synagogye ne molitsya a na etot bazar.
a kto vi dumaete vse eti molitvi pokupaet? vse bogatie ludi. a bednie ludi kotorie xotyat pochitat kadish etogo ne mogut sdelat'.
Systemy nado menyat. I nenado govorit chto eto vse delaetsya potomu chto deneg net. est ludi kotorie daut dengi i ne pokazivaut kto oni est.
Ya dumal chto postroyat novuu synagogye i vse izmenitsya chto budet membership.
To you first point: the rabbis lay it out there so that you don't feel uncofortable. They will spend hours with you and what if you desire to pay him only $20.00 to pay for your wedding? News flash! The rabbis= is not there only for an half an hour to perform the chuppah! He has to research all the info about you, your name and your family, as well as your wife's family and their names, he has to write up the ketubah - and it's not the same as writing a paper, it has to be kosher. He has to come to your hall the day of the wedding, perform the private chuppah ceremony (the way most Bukharians do it to avoid ain hara) and then perform the chuppa ceremony again for the cameras and all your guests. AND, he has to wait until you are done with your pictures and you gather all your family members- it takes several hours, hours away from his family. Same thing goes for any other service a rabbi performs - it takes precious time. I get paid overtime when I work late, the rabbis can't stay late at their day jobs because they have an obligation to lead our community. So please, open up your wallet and let some air into it and don't complain. You see things only from your perspective. Everyone minds paying money, but you have to see the other side too.
As for your next comment. Tell me please, how often do you frequent your synagogue? Because what you say doesn't really sound true. It may be true that during the high holidays the shuls are packed with people - sadly, people who only show up to shul during the high holidays, and yes those people do pay thousands of dollars for the brachas and many others can't compete with that, BUT if you genually want buy a bracha at a reasonable price you can do so during any other shabbat of the year - that is, if you attend shul. Nenada dla viduhi gavarit shto hoteli kupit na yom kippur and the prices were too unreasonable. You have to buy for a bracha and that can be done during any other shabbat. G-d knows your financial status and you will nto be judged because you couldn't afford to pay 10K during Yom Kippur, but i'm sure you can afford to buy for several hundred dollars during any other shabbat.
Matrix 11-10-2005, 12:34 PM Guys, stop judging.
I can't believe the poeple who have the audacity to judge rabbis for charging things such as weddings, brits, lectures. These rabbis take times out of their lives, time away from their wives and children to speak and inspire other jews. They do not stay home those evenings and weekends to help their wives with the chores and they are not there to help their children do their homework or to play a game of tennis after school because they are serving our community. Most have day jobs and therefore hardly ever have time for their families. And I give their wives a lot of credit for being able to accept this style of life and to stand by their husbands. So if the rabbis want to charge money for these things that's fine by me. At least with this money they can help their family in a financial way - maybe a housekeeper, or a babysitter, or whatever they need to help their wives while they are away helping and teaching and inspiring total strangers, only because these strangers are Jewish.
So please stop thinking that rabbis are turning religion into business. Would any of YOU spend 4 or 5 nights away from your family to spend that time with strangers. Would YOU be able to hold on to a family that way? Would YOU be able to make that sacrifice and not accept any form of monitory gratitude for your services?
:happy65: :happy65: :happy65:
Jewishguy 11-10-2005, 12:37 PM i attend synagogye every shabat. tak chto nenado menya sudit ok? esli ti mne nevish ya tebya preglashau s tvoim muzh v synaogye na subotu ili beth gavriel or the new synagogye on 71st. i k tvoim sveden'yam ya pokupau i dau dengi ne radi pokazuhi. ya ne za sebya govoru a za ludei. ya ved slishu chto govoryat stariki i eto ne spletni.
Jewishguy 11-10-2005, 12:43 PM during the war our buharian great grandparents helped a lot of ashkenazi people who left their homes in Ukarine and Poland.They came to Uzbekistan with nothing no food no money, and from what i hear my great grandfather who was born by the way in Kokand accepted a lot of jews and gave them food and shelter. He was not rich. They lived in poor conditions but he was religious. He did miztva. It was done for free. By the way, he too had family (4 kids ) plus he worked as a shoemaker. I never said that any rabbie should do things for free. In my opinion if u wanna do mitzva do not set your price.
Thanks
in advance
Natasha 11-10-2005, 12:50 PM i attend synagogye every shabat. tak chto nenado menya sudit ok? esli ti mne nevish ya tebya preglashau s tvoim muzh v synaogye na subotu ili beth gavriel or the new synagogye on 71st. i k tvoim sveden'yam ya pokupau i dau dengi ne radi pokazuhi. ya ne za sebya govoru a za ludei. ya ved slishu chto govoryat stariki i eto ne spletni.
Nenada slushat spletni ot drugih. Im toje nada skazat shtob pasishali sinagogu kajdayu nedelu a ni adin raz v got.
And I forgot to address one other issue you raised. The shul needs to raise money by seeling brachot. This is how they pay their rent, their utilities, their janitors. This is how they buy machzors for yom kippur and rosh hashana, this is how they buy new chairs, change the carpeting, buy chandeliers and sefer torahs. A lot of shuls also sponsor kids to yeshivot. And I am glad that they are able to raise in the thousands during the high holidays because that's what helps them through out the year.
Jewishguy 11-10-2005, 12:59 PM i see u are practicing your law here. Ne ploxo poluchaetsy. I vse zhe ya ostaus pri svoem mnenie. U kazhdogo Abrama svoya progamma.
Matrix 11-10-2005, 02:08 PM Hmmmmmmm Religion into Business...........interseno.
Kakaya raznitsa Business ne Business, v kontse kontsov kazhdiy otvechayet za svoi postupki pered B-gom. Ne nam sudit'
Ne sudi - Ne budhesh sudim :happy25:
Jewishguy 11-10-2005, 02:11 PM agree with u on this one
OlorinGandalf 11-10-2005, 02:13 PM i attend synagogue every shabat. tak chto nenado menya sudit ok? esli ti mne nevish ya tebya preglashau s tvoim muzh v synaogye na subotu ili beth gavriel or the new synagogye on 71st. i k tvoim sveden'yam ya pokupau i dau dengi ne radi pokazuhi. ya ne za sebya govoru a za ludei. ya ved slishu chto govoryat stariki i eto ne spletni.
Thank you very much. But u do not have to invite me to any other synagogue other than my own. Our synagogue has reasonable prices on shabbats. The new jewish center synagogue might be a bit pricey...but that comes with the territory, it is a much much more expensive building in general. So the money that you "donate" ideally dont go to the rabbis but to the maintenance of the place.
As far as the affordability of the brahas, one is not obligated to buy on shabbat and/or high holidays if he cannot afford it. There are two other days of the week that one might read the aliya. I am sure that those, even at the new center, do not cost as much. So if there is a will there is a way...that is unless one is angry at the high prices because he too wants to show off in some way and make his donation public.
redflower 11-10-2005, 05:06 PM during the war our buharian great grandparents helped a lot of ashkenazi people who left their homes in Ukarine and Poland.They came to Uzbekistan with nothing no food no money, and from what i hear my great grandfather who was born by the way in Kokand accepted a lot of jews and gave them food and shelter. He was not rich. They lived in poor conditions but he was religious. He did miztva. It was done for free. By the way, he too had family (4 kids ) plus he worked as a shoemaker. I never said that any rabbie should do things for free. In my opinion if u wanna do mitzva do not set your price.
Thanks
in advance
it's nice story, with all respect to your great grand parents!!!
but hey everyone could bring at least 10 stories about their grand-grand-grand parents being deeply into "mitzva", and not looking for reward (in this world). how about us. what our grandchildren will remember?
maybe that we got out of USSR to become slaves somewhere else place?.. :charac71:
OceanofMemories 11-10-2005, 07:27 PM Guys, stop judging.
I can't believe the poeple who have the audacity to judge rabbis for charging things such as weddings, brits, lectures. These rabbis take times out of their lives, time away from their wives and children to speak and inspire other jews. They do not stay home those evenings and weekends to help their wives with the chores and they are not there to help their children do their homework or to play a game of tennis after school because they are serving our community. Most have day jobs and therefore hardly ever have time for their families. And I give their wives a lot of credit for being able to accept this style of life and to stand by their husbands. So if the rabbis want to charge money for these things that's fine by me. At least with this money they can help their family in a financial way - maybe a housekeeper, or a babysitter, or whatever they need to help their wives while they are away helping and teaching and inspiring total strangers, only because these strangers are Jewish.
So please stop thinking that rabbis are turning religion into business. Would any of YOU spend 4 or 5 nights away from your family to spend that time with strangers. Would YOU be able to hold on to a family that way? Would YOU be able to make that sacrifice and not accept any form of monitory gratitude for your services?
very well said...thank u :)
Jew4Life 11-10-2005, 07:33 PM I remember 2years ago when I herd a shiur about business by Jewish law at one of my friends(who madea Aliyah last year) place. One of the things that the speaker/Rabbi was talking about was how they amke tehir parnasa. It was a very interestign shiur, I wish I knew who teh speaker was so i can listen to teh tape/CD again... :innoc04:
chaya 11-10-2005, 07:38 PM Guys, stop judging.
I can't believe the poeple who have the audacity to judge rabbis for charging things such as weddings, brits, lectures. These rabbis take times out of their lives, time away from their wives and children to speak and inspire other jews. They do not stay home those evenings and weekends to help their wives with the chores and they are not there to help their children do their homework or to play a game of tennis after school because they are serving our community. Most have day jobs and therefore hardly ever have time for their families. And I give their wives a lot of credit for being able to accept this style of life and to stand by their husbands. So if the rabbis want to charge money for these things that's fine by me. At least with this money they can help their family in a financial way - maybe a housekeeper, or a babysitter, or whatever they need to help their wives while they are away helping and teaching and inspiring total strangers, only because these strangers are Jewish.
So please stop thinking that rabbis are turning religion into business. Would any of YOU spend 4 or 5 nights away from your family to spend that time with strangers. Would YOU be able to hold on to a family that way? Would YOU be able to make that sacrifice and not accept any form of monitory gratitude for your services?
Your logic is right, but this is very rare. A rabbi should get paid for the services performed, however with honesty only and w/o trampling G-d's name. I have seen rabbis back in russia and here, older so stajem and bet you one thing if I had the audacity I would strip those kind of leaders out of their licenses. Not e/o practices what he preaches.
Orchidea 11-17-2005, 05:31 PM so thats all? the rabbis dont take money to speak, right? if u really think about it, its not that much money if u only hav to pay for the food. i mean....if that lecture is good enough to inspire even one Jew, its worth everything. thank u :)
You bet! Thats what KIRUV is all about :innoc04:
Executive 11-17-2005, 05:58 PM I don't understand why Parnasa is often used to describe Success when in fact in literally means "Livelihood" as in "Feeling a reason to enjoy life" or "feel content with the joy of being alive".
Hatzlekha actually means "success".
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