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TheSpiritualOne
11-29-2005, 08:42 AM
Guys, how to distinguish guys that cheat. What are their character traits? Shakespeare once said that all women cheat and so do all men. However, some men/women deny that they are capable of cheating. Some say that they've done so in their past, but now they have changed. What do you think?

Jewishguy
11-29-2005, 10:26 AM
Guys, how to distinguish guys that cheat. What are their character traits? Shakespeare once said that all women cheat and so do all men. However, some men/women deny that they are capable of cheating. Some say that they've done so in their past, but now they have changed. What do you think?

only time and living with the person together will tell otherswise it is impossible to know. not all guys/girls are cheaters there are always exceptions.

ilya
11-29-2005, 02:09 PM
The most obvious reason why a guy cheats would be that he is not satisfied with the girl he is with. Of course there are those who do it always if given opportunity a so called habit. In either cases, a girl should accept it. She can not change something that is given. Staying spiritual all all the time does not necessarily helps.

The way you distinguish a cheater is by a so called "criminal" - cheating history. In many cases cheaters are smooth talkers.

Milky_Way_NY
11-29-2005, 02:22 PM
Don't think too much on this one. it's just a waste of your time and space on this thread; because there are many reasons why people cheat ...
I mean, most of these reasons are overlaping one another. togda kogda oni naslaivayutsa drug na druga pochva dlya pozvolenie otdatsa ili dat' nazrevaet.
to est' izmenit' mozhet mozhet lyuboi/lyubaya pri zhelanie. i kogda zhelanie previshaet morals, togda chelovek legko opravdivaet dlya sebya svoe 'amoralnoe' povedenie.

Executive
11-29-2005, 03:53 PM
Don't think too much on this one. it's just a waste of your time and space on this thread; because there are many reasons why people cheat ...
I mean, most of these reasons are overlaping one another. togda kogda oni naslaivayutsa drug na druga pochva dlya pozvolenie otdatsa ili dat' nazrevaet.
to est' izmenit' mozhet mozhet lyuboi/lyubaya pri zhelanie. i kogda zhelanie previshaet morals, togda chelovek legko opravdivaet dlya sebya svoe 'amoralnoe' povedenie.

Molodets, I agree 100%.. I think its childish to even bring this topic up for a mature person.. Also true "cheating" or infidelity/adultery is when a couple is married, otherwise its childs play..

Shoshy
11-29-2005, 03:56 PM
Guys, how to distinguish guys that cheat. What are their character traits? Shakespeare once said that all women cheat and so do all men. However, some men/women deny that they are capable of cheating. Some say that they've done so in their past, but now they have changed. What do you think?
Once a cheater - always a cheater. :sign63:

Jewishguy
11-29-2005, 03:57 PM
Once a cheater - always a cheater. :sign63:


i agree!!!

Jandwins
11-29-2005, 05:39 PM
Once a cheater - always a cheater. :sign63:

Ditto that.
I'd keep my eyes open to any red-flags (ie..wandering eyes, body language..etc) Everyone's got a vibe about them. When first meeting someone, that initial impression, I've found, is the most accurate.
Marriage is too intimate of a bond, in both body and soul, to be shared with anyone less than someone I'd trust my life with.

Tssipa
11-29-2005, 06:16 PM
Molodets, I agree 100%.. I think its childish to even bring this topic up for a mature person.. Also true "cheating" or infidelity/adultery is when a couple is married, otherwise its childs play..

so, in other words, you don't mind to be cheated on, while you're dating?

Code9
11-29-2005, 06:18 PM
so, in other words, you don't mind to be cheated on, while you're dating?


Maybe a person will find a better partner. Unless he gave her a ring or something. Dating does not mean "almost" married.

TheGreatOne
11-29-2005, 07:02 PM
I tend to think that propensity to cheat can be rooted in a deep enough level of a person's character that it likely can be seen to an experienced eye through a variety of ways.

Whatever is rooted tends to stay there unless specific actions to uproot it are taken (applies to many things, not just cheating; kind of goes well with, if I remember correctly, the first Newton's law too :) ); but, for that the person needs to understand why it's there in the first place. The introspective abilities are of the essence for that.

Having said that, I'd probably look at the areas of the life of the person that ARE visible to me. Again, if something is rooted in the person, it'll come out, with or without them realizing that, in some fashion in other areas of life as well. If it's a part of the character, it's rooted deep enough to have an effect on thinking and the behavior in general.

Sorry for not giving specific examples -- that can be something to think on your own.

I'd like to point out also, that, in my opinion, the ability to cheat is there for everyone. I think it's the morals of the person that are built out through time that are more indicative of whether or not the person is likely either not have proper morals or is likely to overstep/ignore the morals (which in itself built in his/her feeling of morals) OR is likely to have high moral standards to stay true to himself/herself in the first place.

Guys, how to distinguish guys that cheat. What are their character traits? Shakespeare once said that all women cheat and so do all men. However, some men/women deny that they are capable of cheating. Some say that they've done so in their past, but now they have changed. What do you think?

TheGreatOne
11-29-2005, 08:18 PM
If one were to assume this statement to be true, one would have to concede that there's no way that a person can change.

Life shows, however, that a person can and does change, albeit not always to the good side.

There are transformational experiences a person might've gone through.

In connection with this, let me present this quote I like:

Change your thoughts and you change your world.
-- Norman Vincent Peale

Though one might want to remember this one too:

Change is not always improvement, as the pigeon said when it
got out of the net and into the pie.
-- C.H. Spurdgeon

I'd like to mention this one too:

The greatest discovery of my generation is that human beings,
by changing the inner attitudes of their minds, can change
the outer aspects of their lives... It is too bad that more
people will not accept this tremendous discovery and begin
living it.
-- William James

Once a cheater - always a cheater. :sign63:

Tssipa
11-29-2005, 08:22 PM
If one were to assume this statement to be true, one would have to concede that there's no way that a person can change.

Life shows, however, that a person can and does change, albeit not always to the good side.

There are transformational experiences a person might've gone through.

In connection with this, let me present this quote I like:

Change your thoughts and you change your world.
-- Norman Vincent Peale

Though one might want to remember this one too:

Change is not always improvement, as the pigeon said when it
got out of the net and into the pie.
-- C.H. Spurdgeon

I'd like to mention this one too:

The greatest discovery of my generation is that human beings,
by changing the inner attitudes of their minds, can change
the outer aspects of their lives... It is too bad that more
people will not accept this tremendous discovery and begin
living it.
-- William James

usually change is possible when motivation comes from within. Considering that enforced change is out of the question. :D

Executive
11-29-2005, 08:26 PM
usually change is possible when motivation comes from within. Considering that enforced change is out of the question. :D

Too much analysis of a topic thats beyond analysis..:innoc08:

TheGreatOne
11-29-2005, 08:27 PM
The point is: change is possible. While it comes from within -- I think I agree with that -- it can be triggered by an event/sequence of events/experiences that cause the transformational thinking/feeling.

usually change is possible when motivation comes from within. Considering that enforced change is out of the question. :D

Tssipa
11-29-2005, 08:30 PM
Too much analysis of a topic thats beyond analysis..:innoc08:if one keeps an open mind, then anything can be analyzed, without limits

Milky_Way_NY
11-29-2005, 08:44 PM
Ditto that.
I'd keep my eyes open to any red-flags (ie..wandering eyes, body language..etc) Everyone's got a vibe about them. When first meeting someone, that initial impression, I've found, is the most accurate.
Marriage is too intimate of a bond, in both body and soul, to be shared with anyone less than someone I'd trust my life with.

hmmm ... a esli someone needs more than one to trust his life with?

Milky_Way_NY
11-29-2005, 08:45 PM
i voobshe, nuzhno bilo avtoru dat' chetkoe znachnie slovu 'cheat' iznachalno.

TheSpiritualOne
11-30-2005, 08:48 AM
The most obvious reason why a guy cheats would be that he is not satisfied with the girl he is with. Of course there are those who do it always if given opportunity a so called habit. In either cases, a girl should accept it. She can not change something that is given. Staying spiritual all all the time does not necessarily helps.

The way you distinguish a cheater is by a so called "criminal" - cheating history. In many cases cheaters are smooth talkers.

Ilya, what do you mean by your last line?

TheSpiritualOne
11-30-2005, 08:55 AM
if one keeps an open mind, then anything can be analyzed, without limits
thank you tssipa.

ilya
11-30-2005, 09:27 AM
Ilya, what do you mean by your last line?

You mean by this line:

cheaters are smooth talkers

Eti ludi horosho lapshu naushu veshaut. :fight56:

POMAIIIKA
11-30-2005, 11:27 AM
OK, you want to know if your significant one is cheating? Here is the story that my friend told me:

You and your significant other are in the restaurant. You go to the bathroom and call him/her from a blocked number. Change your voice and say "I love you". Come back to him/her while she/he is still listening to the phone voice. Ask: "Who did you talk to?" If she/he tells you the truth, like: "kakoi-to idiot pozvonil i skazal, chto lyubit"...most probably he/she is honest to you. But is he says something else: "Wrong phone number", "My mom", hehe watch out!:tongue10:

QueenofLilies
11-30-2005, 11:39 AM
everyone is capable of cheating, you cannot categorize people that cheat and recognize them because these people cannot be labelled visibly. People who do cheat do so because their current relationship is not worth committing to or they are not happy being in it.

MortgageBanker
11-30-2005, 12:30 PM
Ya ne mogu ponyat' pochemu nashi buharskie devochki tak silno na etom zatsiklilis', v to vremya kogda u nas valom drugix dilem.

Ne nado begat' za tem kto nravitsya vam ili komu nravites' vi, a molitsya e nadeetsya shtobi vam popalsya tot chelovek kotori vas dostoen...

Jandwins
11-30-2005, 12:49 PM
Ya ne mogu ponyat' pochemu nashi buharskie devochki tak silno na etom zatsiklilis', v to vremya kogda u nas valom drugix dilem.
Ne nado begat' za tem kto nravitsya vam ili komu nravites' vi, a molitsya e nadeetsya shtobi vam popalsya tot chelovek kotori vas dostoen...

Hmm...makes perfect sense...

MortgageBanker
11-30-2005, 12:54 PM
OK, you want to know if your significant one is cheating? Here is the story that my friend told me:

You and your significant other are in the restaurant. You go to the bathroom and call him/her from a blocked number. Change your voice and say "I love you". Come back to him/her while she/he is still listening to the phone voice. Ask: "Who did you talk to?" If she/he tells you the truth, like: "kakoi-to idiot pozvonil i skazal, chto lyubit"...most probably he/she is honest to you. But is he says something else: "Wrong phone number", "My mom", hehe watch out!:tongue10:

Nu eto uzhe detski sad, time to grow up young lady...

Executive
11-30-2005, 02:24 PM
OK, you want to know if your significant one is cheating? Here is the story that my friend told me:

You and your significant other are in the restaurant. You go to the bathroom and call him/her from a blocked number. Change your voice and say "I love you". Come back to him/her while she/he is still listening to the phone voice. Ask: "Who did you talk to?" If she/he tells you the truth, like: "kakoi-to idiot pozvonil i skazal, chto lyubit"...most probably he/she is honest to you. But is he says something else: "Wrong phone number", "My mom", hehe watch out!:tongue10:

How can you walk back to him while he is still listening to a call you already hung up on?? Unless you walk back towards him with your phone to your face repeating "I love you". lol :D

Better to ask someone else to do it..

chaya
11-30-2005, 07:04 PM
OK, you want to know if your significant one is cheating? Here is the story that my friend told me:

You and your significant other are in the restaurant. You go to the bathroom and call him/her from a blocked number. Change your voice and say "I love you". Come back to him/her while she/he is still listening to the phone voice. Ask: "Who did you talk to?" If she/he tells you the truth, like: "kakoi-to idiot pozvonil i skazal, chto lyubit"...most probably he/she is honest to you. But is he says something else: "Wrong phone number", "My mom", hehe watch out!:tongue10:
lol. That is just if you want to laugh. Real world doesn't work like that. Either hier an inspector or do it yourself. Finding out about where abouts of your spouse and then checking the validity of their answers will let you know the truth.

Executive
11-30-2005, 07:29 PM
lol. That is just if you want to laugh. Real world doesn't work like that. Either hier an inspector or do it yourself. Finding out about where abouts of your spouse and then checking the validity of their answers will let you know the truth.


Sometimes your better off not knowing the truth.. I think the partners/spouses should only "investigate" when sudden unexplained problems occur within the relationship that can make one suspect the other is cheating.

Some signs are:

1. Sudden drop in frequency of intimate relations (married couples)
2. Seeing new clothing, or gift like items appear out of nowhere.
3. Special someone disappears for long periods of time with bad excuses of where they went or are going.
4. Less attention, coldness.
5. Change of personality, new phrases or words being used that are not typical his terminology or his friends/associates.
6. Cell phone usage increases. (if you have anyway of figuring it out).

These are just a few, that apply mainly to married couples.

otherwise as they say: "if its not broken, don't fix it". In this case, if it doesn't seem to be broken, then don't attempt to fix it. :)

chaya
11-30-2005, 07:32 PM
Sometimes your better off not knowing the truth.. I think the partners/spouses should only "investigate" when sudden unexplained problems occur within the relationship that can make one suspect the other is cheating.

Some signs are:

1. Sudden drop in frequency of intimate relations (married couples)
2. Seeing new clothing, or gift like items appear out of nowhere.
3. Special someone disappears for long periods of time with bad excuses of where they went or are going.
4. Less attention, coldness.
5. Change of personality, new phrases or words being used that are not typical his terminology or his friends/associates.
6. Cell phone usage increases. (if you have anyway of figuring it out).

These are just a few, that apply mainly to married couples.

otherwise as they say: "if its not broken, don't fix it". In this case, if it doesn't seem to be broken, then don't attempt to fix it. :)
They do seem like all valid signs.

Dudette
11-30-2005, 07:44 PM
Guys, how to distinguish guys that cheat. What are their character traits? Shakespeare once said that all women cheat and so do all men. However, some men/women deny that they are capable of cheating. Some say that they've done so in their past, but now they have changed. What do you think?
I honestly don't think there are specific "characteristic traits", some guys who don't look or act like it could very well end up to be cheaters. And i think the grl knows, personal i feel it. I don't know wat u wanna call the feeling but a grl can just tell or at least i could. I even had a discussion w/ my friend who suspected her bf of cheating and was right, she said she felt it but i honestly didn't know wat she meant until i met a guy who was a cheater and felt it myself.

Executive
11-30-2005, 07:51 PM
I honestly don't think there are specific "characteristic traits", some guys who don't look or act like it could very well end up to be cheaters. And i think the grl knows, personal i feel it. I don't know wat u wanna call the feeling but a grl can just tell or at least i could. I even had a discussion w/ my friend who suspected her bf of cheating and was right, she said she felt it but i honestly didn't know wat she meant until i met a guy who was a cheater and felt it myself.

Well in some cases, all I will say is this: "when the food at home tastes like garbage, you have no choice but to eat out".. :innoc08:

Aragorn
11-30-2005, 08:37 PM
Guys, how to distinguish guys that cheat. What are their character traits? Shakespeare once said that all women cheat and so do all men. However, some men/women deny that they are capable of cheating. Some say that they've done so in their past, but now they have changed. What do you think?

Shakespeare is right. Read a book called Sperm Wars by Robin Baker. Everyone has a "character trait" to cheat. Even the most innocent looking girl and an Orthodox Rabbi have a potential to cheat.
I once talked to one Rabbi and he told me that if his wife would allow him to have a sexual relationship with another women, he would not mind doing it. (Technically it is not against a Halaha for a married guy to sleep with unmarried woman).

The "character trait" to cheat is innate within each person. There are only three thing that prevent a person from cheating
1) His morals
2) Fear of being caught
3) Being sexually fulfilled by a wife or husband.

Executive
11-30-2005, 08:39 PM
Shakespeare is right. Read a book called Sperm Wars by Robin Baker. Everyone has a "character trait" to cheat. Even the most innocent looking girl and an Orthodox Rabbi have a potential to cheat.
I once talked to one Rabbi and he told me that if his wife would allow him to have a sexual relationship with another women, he would not mind doing it. (Technically it is not against a Halaha for a married guy to sleep with unmarried woman).

The "character trait" to cheat is innate within each person. There are only three thing that prevent a person from cheating
1) His morals
2) Fear of being caught.
3) Being sexually fulfilled by a wife or husband.

There we go!!!! :sign58:

Milky_Way_NY
11-30-2005, 10:31 PM
Shakespeare is right. Read a book called Sperm Wars by Robin Baker. Everyone has a "character trait" to cheat. Even the most innocent looking girl and an Orthodox Rabbi have a potential to cheat.
I once talked to one Rabbi and he told me that if his wife would allow him to have a sexual relationship with another women, he would not mind doing it. (Technically it is not against a Halaha for a married guy to sleep with unmarried woman).

The "character trait" to cheat is innate within each person. There are only three thing that prevent a person from cheating
1) His morals
2) Fear of being caught
3) Being sexually fulfilled by a wife or husband.

Ochen' horosho skazal. No ya bi popravil perviy element - 'his morals' na his/her morals even though bolshinstvo zhenshin ne bludodeistvuyut iz za FEAR, a ne iz-za ih MORALS.

Jandwins
11-30-2005, 11:38 PM
Ya ne mogu ponyat' pochemu nashi buharskie devochki tak silno na etom zatsiklilis', v to vremya kogda u nas valom drugix dilem.

Ne nado begat' za tem kto nravitsya vam ili komu nravites' vi, a molitsya e nadeetsya shtobi vam popalsya tot chelovek kotori vas dostoen...

...still makes sense...

Executive
11-30-2005, 11:41 PM
...still makes sense...

Unfortunately we DON'T live in an idealistic world.. So therefore, even though it sounds perfect, it has no place on this thread, for it explains nothing.. :innoc08:

Jandwins
11-30-2005, 11:54 PM
Unfortunately we DON'T live in an idealistic world.. So therefore, even though it sounds perfect, it has no place on this thread, for it explains nothing.. :innoc08:

I disagree, it explains a lot...it's silly to try and control and predict what people are going to do...fate is fate...and prayer and G-d I know are powerful.

Jandwins
11-30-2005, 11:55 PM
Did I even make sense, man I need some shut-eye..

Executive
11-30-2005, 11:56 PM
I disagree, it explains a lot...it's silly to try and control and predict what people are going to do...fate is fate...and prayer and G-d I know are powerful.

Precisely!! Your good I must say :). Thats why earlier in the thread i said: "Analyzing something that cannot be analyzed".. :innoc08:

I play devils advocate alot ;).