lenchiknyc
04-08-2005, 09:46 AM
How can a girl make a guy that doesn't want to commit, to commit?
Can she do it at all?
Can she do it at all?
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View Full Version : How do you....... lenchiknyc 04-08-2005, 09:46 AM How can a girl make a guy that doesn't want to commit, to commit? Can she do it at all? lenchiknyc 04-08-2005, 09:47 AM How can a girl make a guy that doesn't want to commit, to commit? Can she do it at all? I am very curious to hear guys opinion on this topic. And ladies, feel free to share your own experiences. And when I talk about commitment, it doesn't necessary have to be marriage. More like a relationship!!!! Центрист 04-08-2005, 11:02 AM How can a girl make a guy that doesn't want to commit, to commit? Can she do it at all? It is difficult to advise without knowing circumstances of a certain situation. IMHO, in general try do the following: 1) do not pressure him into a relationship, rather encourage or motivate him. 2) do not glue yourself to him, rather show him your reserved interest 3) show him implicitly that he has competition, jealousy to certain extend arise a sense of appreciation for the opposite sex. I must clarify that most of the time in relationships it all comes down to whether a person likes you or not. Above tips would be useless when a person is simply not interested in you. So once again, circumstances of a certain situation would influence an outcome. Tssipa 04-08-2005, 01:40 PM How can a girl make a guy that doesn't want to commit, to commit? Can she do it at all? well, first i think you have to know the reason why a guy would not want to commit. May be then you won't even want him to commit. May be he is in a relatioship for something that does not require commitment. lenchiknyc 04-08-2005, 01:57 PM :tongue21: :well, first i think you have to know the reason why a guy would not want to commit. May be then you won't even want him to commit. May be he is in a relatioship for something that does not require commitment. Reason being: Afraid of commitment!! Patrified of marriage and scared of any time of clossesness (spelled defiently wrong!!!) Admins, you guys need to fix the spell check. Mne ne nravitsya viglyadit' like I can't spell, which in some instances is TRUE :tongue21: Matrix 04-08-2005, 02:08 PM :tongue21: : Reason being: Afraid of commitment!! Patrified of marriage and scared of any time of clossesness (spelled defiently wrong!!!) Admins, you guys need to fix the spell check. Mne ne nravitsya viglyadit' like I can't spell, which in some instances is TRUE :tongue21: If he's scared of closeness then she should make him aware of loneliness. I think it's much more scary that closeness lenchiknyc 04-08-2005, 02:14 PM If he's scared of closeness then she should make him aware of loneliness. I think it's much more scary that closeness That's a very interesting point. Wow, I really never thought of that. But how do you make him aware of the alternative (lonliness), that is the tricky part!!! Jewishguy 04-08-2005, 02:42 PM I am very curious to hear guys opinion on this topic. And ladies, feel free to share your own experiences. And when I talk about commitment, it doesn't necessary have to be marriage. More like a relationship!!!! and who is this "lucky" guy?:) Matrix 04-08-2005, 02:46 PM That's a very interesting point. Wow, I really never thought of that. But how do you make him aware of the alternative (lonliness), that is the tricky part!!! Go with him to the nursing home. It may not be a nice example, but i think it'll do the trick. lenchiknyc 04-08-2005, 02:49 PM Go with him to the nursing home. It may not be a nice example, but i think it'll do the trick. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Tssipa 04-08-2005, 04:00 PM :tongue21: : Reason being: Afraid of commitment!! Patrified of marriage and scared of any time of clossesness (spelled defiently wrong!!!) Admins, you guys need to fix the spell check. Mne ne nravitsya viglyadit' like I can't spell, which in some instances is TRUE :tongue21: well, I think being afraid of commitment is not the reason. The reason is behind the fear to commit. Aragorn 04-08-2005, 04:32 PM How can a girl make a guy that doesn't want to commit, to commit? Can she do "it" at all? Get naked before him in your ligerie and he will commit. Tssipa 04-08-2005, 05:00 PM Get naked before him in your ligerie and he will commit. i hope you dont do that to have girls commit to you. :D *** QueenofLilies 04-08-2005, 09:46 PM The guy is only afraid of commitment if he is doubting is sharing his future with her. We, girls, are also afraid of commiting ourselves if we are not certain with who we are devoting ourselves to for the rest of our lives. Tssipa 04-08-2005, 10:05 PM The guy is only afraid of commitment if he is doubting is sharing his future with her. We, girls, are also afraid of commiting ourselves if we are not certain with who we are devoting ourselves to for the rest of our lives. i agree with you lenchiknyc 04-09-2005, 08:53 PM The guy is only afraid of commitment if he is doubting is sharing his future with her. We, girls, are also afraid of commiting ourselves if we are not certain with who we are devoting ourselves to for the rest of our lives. I think this is where the confusion comes in. I was not talking about marriage. I was more refering to the stage before marriage. I think this is the difference in dating between Bukharian women and non-Bukharian (I am not trying to offend anyone, just simply clarifying my question). When Bukharian girls start dating, they are dating with ONE purpose and that purpose is to get married. Non-bukharian GUYS don't date like that. So when we, non-Bukharian girls start dating someone, we are not dating them for the SOLE purpose of getting married to them, b/c if we have that purpose in mind, the GUY would run faster then he would talk to you. SO, I think the problem in not in us non-bukharian girls, but in non-bukharian GUYS that we date. So then the question becomes, should non-bukharian gilrs start dating bukharian guys, if they want to get married? But then how can we start dating bukharian guys, if most bukharian guys don't want to date non-bukharian girls??? So I guess we are back at square one, with the same question, of how to make a non-bukharian guy commit to a girl??? I hope this made sense :evilgr39: QueenofLilies 04-09-2005, 09:39 PM I think this is where the confusion comes in. I was not talking about marriage. I was more refering to the stage before marriage. I think this is the difference in dating between Bukharian women and non-Bukharian (I am not trying to offend anyone, just simply clarifying my question). When Bukharian girls start dating, they are dating with ONE purpose and that purpose is to get married. Non-bukharian GUYS don't date like that. So when we, non-Bukharian girls start dating someone, we are not dating them for the SOLE purpose of getting married to them, b/c if we have that purpose in mind, the GUY would run faster then he would talk to you. SO, I think the problem in not in us non-bukharian girls, but in non-bukharian GUYS that we date. So then the question becomes, should non-bukharian gilrs start dating bukharian guys, if they want to get married? But then how can we start dating bukharian guys, if most bukharian guys don't want to date non-bukharian girls??? So I guess we are back at square one, with the same question, of how to make a non-bukharian guy commit to a girl??? I hope this made sense :evilgr39: Not necessarily true Lena. I heard many bukharian girls date some people for "experience", just like guys girls for experience, except they have a tendency to "call-it-off" faster....in other words, they are fast decison makers...faster than girls that is. lenchiknyc 04-09-2005, 11:00 PM Not necessarily true Lena. I heard many bukharian girls date some people for "experience", just like guys girls for experience, except they have a tendency to "call-it-off" faster....in other words, they are fast decison makers...faster than girls that is. I am not talking about dating for "experience". I am talking about dating that would potentially lead to marriage. But in bukharian culture, that fact is already predetermined when 2 people start dating. I just think it's a nice thing. I wish our guys had the same mentality!!!! Matrix 04-09-2005, 11:12 PM I am not talking about dating for "experience". I am talking about dating that would potentially lead to marriage. But in bukharian culture, that fact is already predetermined when 2 people start dating. I just think it's a nice thing. I wish our guys had the same mentality!!!! Lenchik want to convert to Bukharian??? :evilgr39: Aragorn 04-09-2005, 11:17 PM i hope you dont do that to have girls commit to you. :D *** Actually that is what I do. First I show them one bicept then another and then a third muscle. :evilgr39: OceanofMemories 04-09-2005, 11:26 PM so for what purpose do non-Bukharian guys date??? just for the fun of it because its what the rest of the world does? :confused: crispy 04-09-2005, 11:38 PM How can a girl make a guy that doesn't want to commit, to commit? Can she do it at all? what if the guy is interested and the girl needs more time? crispy 04-09-2005, 11:40 PM Go with him to the nursing home. It may not be a nice example, but i think it'll do the trick. yep that will work! hay honey wonna go to the nursing home today?!? :happy65: lenchiknyc 04-10-2005, 12:11 AM so for what purpose do non-Bukharian guys date??? just for the fun of it because its what the rest of the world does? :confused: Yes they date just to date, but marriage is the last thing on their minds. lenchiknyc 04-10-2005, 12:13 AM Lenchik want to convert to Bukharian??? :evilgr39: Actually I would suck at it. I can't convert, I was taught one way for 22.5 years and that is the way that I like. Maybe I should find a Bukharian guy who would not mind being with a Hudul'ka? :evilgr39: Jewishguy 04-10-2005, 12:15 AM Actually I would suck at it. I can't convert, I was taught one way for 22.5 years and that is the way that I like. Maybe I should find a Bukharian guy who would not mind being with a Hudul'ka? :evilgr39: any reason why?:) :evilgr39: OceanofMemories 04-10-2005, 12:22 AM wat is this constant flirting going on? is he not married???? maybe i should just stay out of it... crispy 04-10-2005, 12:40 AM [QUOTE=OceanofMemories]wat is this constant flirting going on? is he not married????QUOTE] Maybe he's still under the assumption that "what my wife don't know can't hurt her" :evilgr39: Don't worry Matrix, I won't tell if you won't tell. OceanofMemories 04-10-2005, 12:57 AM still, makes me think a little...... Aragorn 04-10-2005, 11:28 PM Yes they date just to date. In another words, they date to get laid. SOF 04-11-2005, 09:54 AM Lenchiknyc, You are idealizing buharian guys too much. If you want to date them only because you think they all date with the intention to get married, you'll be in for a big surprise. There are a lot of players out there, who are just waiting for an opportunity like you to come their way. In other words, with such attitude, you will attract the wrong king of guys, if you know what I mean. Matrix 04-11-2005, 10:38 AM Actually I would suck at it. I can't convert, I was taught one way for 22.5 years and that is the way that I like. Maybe I should find a Bukharian guy who would not mind being with a Hudul'ka? :evilgr39: I thought you don't like to be called Hundul'ka, yet you calling yourself that??? lenchiknyc 04-11-2005, 11:45 AM I thought you don't like to be called Hundul'ka, yet you calling yourself that??? Yeah, that kinda of slipt!!!! But I can call myself that. lenchiknyc 04-11-2005, 11:47 AM Lenchiknyc, You are idealizing buharian guys too much. If you want to date them only because you think they all date with the intention to get married, you'll be in for a big surprise. There are a lot of players out there, who are just waiting for an opportunity like you to come their way. In other words, with such attitude, you will attract the wrong king of guys, if you know what I mean. Let me clarify something. I am not idealizing bukharian guys. I do not want to get married. I am here for the sole purpose of posting interesting threads and have some controversial topics. I was just making an arguement. You have to be able to separate your real life from this forum. Guys and girls, please remember, this is where we talk and discuss intersting points and topics. This doesn't necessarily have to relate to any of us personally!!! :fight58: SOF 04-11-2005, 12:06 PM "Denial is the most predictable of human emotions" :happy25: Oh, come on. The issues discussed here come from real life. I would think that people raise them because they are really bothering them. Otherwise, why even participate? Then again, women and logic :fight24: What's wrong with combining business with pleasure? :bonk: lenchiknyc 04-11-2005, 12:53 PM "Denial is the most predictable of human emotions" :happy25: Oh, come on. The issues discussed here come from real life. I would think that people raise them because they are really bothering them. Otherwise, why even participate? Then again, women and logic :fight24: What's wrong with combining business with pleasure? :bonk: Let me clarify the difference between denial and represion. Denial is something that you are not aware of. Repression is something that you are aware of and repressing that information. It's ok, a lot of people misclassify those terms. So I think you were refering to repression. But then again, can't say that all people use their personal experience for discussion. Have you ever thought that some people might be very creative? And please let's try to restrain ourselves from the sexist comments, such as women and logic. Matrix 04-11-2005, 12:58 PM Let me clarify something. I am not idealizing bukharian guys. I do not want to get married. I am here for the sole purpose of posting interesting threads and have some controversial topics. I was just making an arguement. You have to be able to separate your real life from this forum. Guys and girls, please remember, this is where we talk and discuss intersting points and topics. This doesn't necessarily have to relate to any of us personally!!! :fight58: True, but you know what they say: U kogo chto bolit tot o tom i govorit :happy25: Tssipa 04-11-2005, 04:38 PM Yes they date just to date, but marriage is the last thing on their minds. lenchik, me vse v odnoi lodke. It does not matter bukharian or not. All females date in order to find stability/get married and all men just want one thing, to "score". The reason why bukharian girls tend to get married faster than non bukharian girls is may be because Bukharian girls hold it back(as you know no sex before marriage). So guys, bukharian or not if they like the girl's personality and other things, marry her. But non bukharian girls tend to give guys everything before guys commit, so, what is there left for him to stay in the relationship for? He had what he came after and now he is on to the next victim. Same things happen among bukharian girls, those girls that give in to guys before marriage, lose those guys because guys tend to end the relationship, or these couples end up divorcing. lenchiknyc 04-11-2005, 04:48 PM lenchik, me vse v odnoi lodke. It does not matter bukharian or not. All females date in order to find stability/get married and all men just want one thing, to "score". The reason why bukharian girls tend to get married faster than non bukharian girls is may be because Bukharian girls hold it back(as you know no sex before marriage). So guys, bukharian or not if they like the girl's personality and other things, marry her. But non bukharian girls tend to give guys everything before guys commit, so, what is there left for him to stay in the relationship for? He had what he came after and now he is on to the next victim. Same things happen among bukharian girls, those girls that give in to guys before marriage, lose those guys because guys tend to end the relationship, or these couples end up divorcing. But do u really want to get into marriage that is only happened because guy wanted to get into your pants? SOF 04-11-2005, 05:01 PM А вот и наконец Тссипа дала ответ на вопрос, а то все вокруг да около ходили. Tssipa 04-11-2005, 05:03 PM But do u really want to get into marriage that is only happened because guy wanted to get into your pants? Well, I am sure that no guy is stupid enough to marry a girl just to sleep with her. It's like this, both of them study each other, personality, family, things like that, and they leave sex for after the marriage. But of course sex is not the only reason they are getting married. It's the last step in bringing them both together. So to speak it consumates their love, for each other, their marriage. Matrix 04-11-2005, 05:13 PM How can a girl make a guy that doesn't want to commit, to commit?Can she do it at all? Make him an offer he wouldn't refuse :fight02: Reference movie - "The G-d Father" lenchiknyc 04-11-2005, 05:15 PM Make him an offer he wouldn't refuse :fight02: Reference movie - "The G-d Father" What type of offer would that be? I am open to suggestions. Tssipa 04-11-2005, 05:20 PM Make him an offer he wouldn't refuse :fight02: Reference movie - "The G-d Father" threaten to take his life?:fight15: No, I think if you want guy's commitment you should not offer anything, but friendship, sometimes not even that. On sam pritsepitsya. Unfortunatelly that seems to be the pattern. The more you push away closer they want to get. I guess men are like cave men, still get turned on by the hunt and driven by challenge. Aminals. :D Matrix 04-11-2005, 05:37 PM threaten to take his life?:fight15: No, I think if you want guy's commitment you should not offer anything, but friendship, sometimes not even that. On sam pritsepitsya. Unfortunatelly that seems to be the pattern. The more you push away closer they want to get. I guess men are like cave men, still get turned on by the hunt and driven by challenge. Aminals. :D It's funny that you call guys Animals and at the same time you want them to commit to you. In this case what does is make you? :evilgr39: Tssipa 04-11-2005, 05:39 PM It's funny that you call guys Animals and at the same time you want them to commit to you. In this case what does is make you? :evilgr39: a human being that animals want. heheheheh No I would not want to force anyone to commit to me. I would want it to be spontaneous. If a person will love me the only thing I would want is that his love is natural. In other words, that it's his wish to love me and to be with me. Otherwise, why bother? Matrix 04-11-2005, 05:42 PM a human being that animals want. heheheheh you mean a human being who wants animals? Tssipa 04-11-2005, 05:44 PM you mean a human being who wants animals? anyway you turn it, the fact is humans ARE animals. So, there you have it, understand it as you please. :D Matrix 04-11-2005, 05:49 PM anyway you turn it, the fact is humans ARE animals. So, there you have it, understand it as you please. :D I hope you're being sarcastic Tssipa 04-11-2005, 06:13 PM I hope you're being sarcastic I'm not. TheGreatOne 04-11-2005, 07:17 PM threaten to take his life?:fight15: No, I think if you want guy's commitment you should not offer anything, but friendship, sometimes not even that. On sam pritsepitsya. Unfortunatelly that seems to be the pattern. The more you push away closer they want to get. I guess men are like cave men, still get turned on by the hunt and driven by challenge. Aminals. :D "Chem men'she zhenschinu my lyubim Tem bol'she nravimsya my yey I tem skorey yeyo pogubim Sred' obol'stitel'nykh rechey." -- A. Pushkin (Some words might've been changed a bit -- to protect the innocent. Either that or I might've forgotten them. Nevertheless, the meaning stayed the same). :) Based on what comrade Pushkin had to say and what you called people with such instincts, are you saying the women are basically animals? :) Matrix 04-12-2005, 10:38 AM I'm not. The person who thinks or considers him/herself an animal, does not know the difference between a human being and an animal. Nothing personal. Prosto ot tebya ne ozhidal. crispy 04-12-2005, 11:03 AM Тхе персон wхо тхинкс ор цонсидерс хим/херселф ан анимал, доес нот кноw тхе дифференце бетwеен а хуман беинг анд ан анимал. Нотхинг персонал. Просто от тебя не ожидал. што вы все на тссипу напали, оставте ее в покоые. не дают челвеку/анимал выговоритса. не какого увожение, чесное слова! Matrix 04-12-2005, 11:06 AM што вы все на тссипу напали, оставте ее в покоые. не дают челвеку/анимал выговоритса. не какого увожение, чесное слова! tak cheloveku ili animalu? Tssipa 04-12-2005, 12:19 PM The person who thinks or considers him/herself an animal, does not know the difference between a human being and an animal. Nothing personal. Prosto ot tebya ne ozhidal. ok let me explain what i meant. Of course if you perceive word "animal" with its "bad" connotation then yes I completely see your point and in this case no humans are not animals. BUT when you perceive word "animal" as a category, for example. insects, birds, animals or I guess as people these days refer to it as mammals, then the word animal is not such a bad word. Matrix 04-12-2005, 12:48 PM ok let me explain what i meant. Of course if you perceive word "animal" with its "bad" connotation then yes I completely see your point and in this case no humans are not animals. BUT when you perceive word "animal" as a category, for example. insects, birds, animals or I guess as people these days refer to it as mammals, then the word animal is not such a bad word. I don't remember saing that the word Animal is bad |