As you already know Ariel Sharon is in critical condition after a stroke .however, if some of u dont know or dont remember about the curse that was made on him by most promiment Rabbis in Israel for giving up the land in the Gaza Strip. Do you think that the curse has worked?

The curse only made him Ill, and I dont think it will make him repent either, he isnt he still alive?
I believe curse works that a person usually dies.

For those who doesn't know about the curse here is the link which was on the news

I didn't know about the curse myself

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45454

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/mar2005/johnc331-2.htm

As you already know Ariel Sharon is in critical condition after a stroke .however, if some of u dont know or dont remember about the curse that was made on him by most promiment Rabbis in Israel for giving up the land in the Gaza Strip. Do you think that the curse has worked?

The guy is 77 years old, I think it's the age not the curse.

The guy is 77 years old, I think it's the age not the curse.

Please notice he is not just an ordinary citizen of ISrael:) he is the Prime Minister dont forget he undergoes medical tests every month.
Today he was supposed to have a medical procedure to close small hole in his heart ..........once again think about the curse.....Doctors are not G-d

Please notice he is not just an ordinary citizen of ISrael:) he is the Prime Minister dont forget he undergoes medical tests every month. Today he was supposed to have a medical procedure to close small hole in his heart ..........once again think about the curse.....Doctors are not G-d

He may not be an ordinary citizen, but he's definetelly an ordinary human being. The fact that he's not an ordinary citizen does not make his life longer.

If what happened to him, would've happen 2 or 3 years or more after the curse was placed, would you still say that it was the curce that did it?

He may not be an ordinary citizen, but he's definetelly an ordinary human being. The fact that he's not an ordinary citizen does not make his life longer.

If what happened to him, would've happen 2 or 3 years or more after the curse was placed, would you still say that it was the curce that did it?

nope i would not say anything if it happened in a year:) but i will tell u that i diagree with his policy of giving up the Israely land to Palestinians who want more and more and nothing in return for peace:) there wont be peace in that region unless arabs get real and start respecting jews as human beings and not animals who are slautered for fun.

He may not be an ordinary citizen, but he's definetelly an ordinary human being. The fact that he's not an ordinary citizen does not make his life longer.

If what happened to him, would've happen 2 or 3 years or more after the curse was placed, would you still say that it was the curce that did it?

i happen to remember now when my dad heard about the curse that the Rabbis put on Sharon, he told me that if eventually gets sick and dies would ppl think that the curse actually work.
It depends on how you look at everything not just his curse....is it all coincidence or is everything even the little things in life meant to happen?

He is as good as dead and mark my words, this surgery is for show, with the seriousness of his hemorhage he should have died quickly.. They are trying to save a corpse.

As far as the curse, I do remember that day on the Russian TV seeing all those Kabbalists at the cemetary at night placing a death curse on him, however they did say it will only work if he truly deserves it, otherwise it would bounce back on them.... Whether it took time for it to kick in or Sharon has misbehaved in other ways in G-d's eyes is up to speculation. But in general I would say the curse worked. Why you may ask? Well considering he had a thrombocitic (blood clot) stroke a few ago, and was given blood thinning medication to prevent another blood clot, the reverse effect was produced by pure bad luck you can say, the blood vessels in his brain popped... No guardian angel by his side at that time. Who knows, maybe a chocolate bar or a glass of wine could have saved his blood vessels from tearing open. But nevertheless, the curse kicked in..

It might be a placebo effect, or it might be the curse. Either way, there is no such thing as absolute truth, everything passes through the filter of the observer.
I'm not too familiar with Israeli politics, but what JG said up there, about Sharon appeasing the Palestineans, what do you fellow boojlians think about that? Is Sharon right, or wrong? Why?......"Free your mind" :)

It might be a placebo effect, or it might be the curse. Either way, there is no such thing as absolute truth, everything passes through the filter of the observer.
I'm not too familiar with Israeli politics, but what JG said up there, about Sharon appeasing the Palestineans, what do you fellow boojlians think about that? Is Sharon right, or wrong? Why?......"Free your mind" :)

One can't really say who's right and who's wrong. It's easy to sit on the other side of the earth and say that he's wrong and should die. You can say he is appeasing the Palestineans but you can also say he really strives for peace, no matter how impossible peace may seem. All one can do is believe that whatever happens is for the best.

It might be a placebo effect, or it might be the curse. Either way, there is no such thing as absolute truth, everything passes through the filter of the observer.
I'm not too familiar with Israeli politics, but what JG said up there, about Sharon appeasing the Palestineans, what do you fellow boojlians think about that? Is Sharon right, or wrong? Why?......"Free your mind" :)

Each Israeli Prime Minister will be cursed with the duty of leading his country with the US and World Pressure upon them to split the land.. Israel cannot survive without the US by its side.

The only reason I personally am upset that this has happened is because ONLY Sharon would be able to send a preemptive strike against Iran's nuclear sites. I think even Bush was expecting Israel to carry out the raids this time. But now, we face potential global threat within a year or 2 at the most. I am sure the newly elected PM will not be as a hard liner as Sharon was and President Bush as waisted too much time ignoring the Iran nuclear threat.. The situation doesn't look good..

One can't really say who's right and who's wrong. It's easy to sit on the other side of the earth and say that he's wrong and should die. You can say he is appeasing the Palestineans but you can also say he really strives for peace, no matter how impossible peace may seem. All one can do is believe that whatever happens is for the best.

Who will take over if Sharon doesn't pull through?

Who will take over if Sharon doesn't pull through?

Firstly, even if he "pulls thru" he will most likely be in a vegetative state, or at best a quadrapalegic, and the government will not let him back into office if his physically unfit. So, for the first 100 days it will be the Deputy PM Ehud Olmert will be in charge after which an election will be setup and a new PM will be elected.

Firstly, even if he "pulls thru" he will most likely be in a vegetative state, or at best a quadrapalegic, and the government will not let him back into office if his physically unfit. So, for the first 100 days it will be the Deputy PM Ehud Olmert will be in charge after which an election will be setup and a new PM will be elected.

I saw Munich, Speilberg's got perfect timing.

Pri chem tut placebo effect? Sharon ne religiozniy chelovek. I navernyaka vse eti proklyatiya bili emu po batve.

latest news he is in serious condition after surgery
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10709976/

Pri chem tut placebo effect? Sharon ne religiozniy chelovek. I navernyaka vse eti proklyatiya bili emu po batve.

It doesn't matter if he's religious or not. He is not immune to the power of actualization. Plus, leaning into the comfort zone of 'knowing' and having something to attribute a fortune/misfortune is the usual inclination.

Each Israeli Prime Minister will be cursed with the duty of leading his country with the US and World Pressure upon them to split the land.. Israel cannot survive without the US by its side.

The only reason I personally am upset that this has happened is because ONLY Sharon would be able to send a preemptive strike against Iran's nuclear sites. I think even Bush was expecting Israel to carry out the raids this time. But now, we face potential global threat within a year or 2 at the most. I am sure the newly elected PM will not be as a hard liner as Sharon was and President Bush as waisted too much time ignoring the Iran nuclear threat.. The situation doesn't look good..

I agree on this one with you :happy65:

It doesn't matter if he's religious or not. He is not immune to the power of actualization. Plus, leaning into the comfort zone of 'knowing' and having something to attribute a fortune/misfortune is the usual inclination.

Why are you arguing something so obvious? Do you think that back in July when i saw the kabbalistic ritual, would imagine Sharon croaking within 6 months? I am as much as skeptic as you. But loe and behold he is as good as dead as we speak. And if you noticed the kabbalists said that they needed to publicise the ritual and make Sharon aware for it to be successful, perhaps maybe encoding it into his subconscious mind.

It doesn't matter if he's religious or not. He is not immune to the power of actualization. Plus, leaning into the comfort zone of 'knowing' and having something to attribute a fortune/misfortune is the usual inclination.

aha ... navernoe emu pokazalos' chto lunch kotoriy on s'yel bil proklyat fanatikami tozhe.

I think he deserves it, it's mean to say, but after all he has put the Jews through, Hashem is returning back to him Midah Keneged Midah (measure for measure).

I think he deserves it, it's mean to say, but after all he has put the Jews through, Hashem is returning back to him Midah Keneged Midah (measure for measure).

So then you agree with JG (he does make a good point), that giving away the land to Palestinians doesn't resolve the conflict, and Sharon is only getting what's coming to him, of am I off measure?

So then you agree with JG (he does make a good point), that giving away the land to Palestinians doesn't resolve the conflict, and Sharon is only getting what's coming to him, of am I off measure?
Giving away the land if it's good or bad is not for us to say, if Hashem let it happen then its all part of a bigger picture, and plan which we can't understand.

Giving away the land if it's good or bad is not for us to say, if Hashem let it happen then its all part of a bigger picture, and plan which we can't understand.

The way you think :party29: I agree all the way :innoc04:

Israel constantly gets what its people and the government deserve!! Doesn't everyone see the big picture??? G-d's will is stronger that any nation's free will.. The big picture says that Jews are not ready for this land yet, its not the time. All they do with it is corrupt it with ungodly sinful behavior. They need to spill blood to try and keep the tiny bits they have left and that by destiny they are losing.. So how many PM's will it take to "curse" to death until the NATION ITSELF comes to the REALIZATION that the land has NOT been given to us freely by G-d yet... The Chabads and Hassidim see it the same exact way, and lately I must say, I agree with them..

Lets just forget the curse for a minute. Do you guys remember the article from Kabbalist, Rabbi Yitzchak Kaduri .

Here is the article: http://israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=89850

Rabbi Kaduri has told his students that the current government will be the last one of the "old era." He is on record as saying that Sharon will be the last prime minister in Israel, and that the new government will already have leadership of the Messianic era.

I wonder whats next...

Lets just forget the curse for a minute. Do you guys remember the article from Kabbalist, Rabbi Yitzchak Kaduri .

Here is the article: http://israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=89850



I wonder whats next...
that article is B.S. i asked a rabbi who got in touch w/ rabbi kaduri's ppl and they told him that the article isn't true. If u like i have the rabbis #, u can call and ask himself.

the reason the land was given away was because he was pressured by a lot of people. because they thought it would make it peacefull for both nations but in the end the whole world saw that they are nothing but animals.
i dont think that the curse is the reason for his illness once again he is 77 and overweight which itself cause a lot of problems.

As you already know Ariel Sharon is in critical condition after a stroke .however, if some of u dont know or dont remember about the curse that was made on him by most promiment Rabbis in Israel for giving up the land in the Gaza Strip.

I really think what they are doing to him is not right:mad54:!!