Girls,

how do you decide if the guy you've just met is a good "dateable" material for you?

Guys,

how do you think girls decide if the guy they've just met is a good "dateable" material for them?

There is concept called attraction. It is a gut feeling emotion on the subconscious level. We don't think about it when deciding whether we are attracted to that person or not. Attraction is an emotional response that you don’t control consciously. On the subconscious level girls mate guys who display their manly ornamentation characteristics such as dominance, leadership, initiative, confidence, independence, and etc. Those displays are revealed through communication that is not purely verbal communication. Most of that communication is done though the body language, voice tone, space, time, and the like. Attraction is triggered through those channels of communications which display his sexual fitness. This emotion on the subconscious level surpasses logic and cultural predisposition.

There is concept called attraction. It is a gut feeling emotion on the subconscious level. We don't think about it when deciding whether we are attracted to that person or not. Attraction is an emotional response that you don’t control consciously. On the subconscious level girls mate guys who display their manly ornamentation characteristics such as dominance, leadership, initiative, confidence, independence, and etc. Those displays are revealed through communication that is not purely verbal communication. Most of that communication is done though the body language, voice tone, space, time, and the like. Attraction is triggered through those channels of communications which display his sexual fitness. This emotion on the subconscious level surpasses logic and cultural predisposition.

well said :)

There is concept called attraction. It is a gut feeling emotion on the subconscious level. We don't think about it when deciding whether we are attracted to that person or not. Attraction is an emotional response that you don’t control consciously. On the subconscious level girls mate guys who display their manly ornamentation characteristics such as dominance, leadership, initiative, confidence, independence, and etc. Those displays are revealed through communication that is not purely verbal communication. Most of that communication is done though the body language, voice tone, space, time, and the like. Attraction is triggered through those channels of communications which display his sexual fitness. This emotion on the subconscious level surpasses logic and cultural predisposition.

There we go with that "emotion" thing again. :)

It's an interesting piece of analysis. However, let me present to you this for consideration: since the same guy can have different effect on different girls even when revealing the same information about himself through those "channels of communication", wouldn't this also make this a significant factor on how perceptive the girl is to receiving that information. (This must be true of any communication: there's a "sender" of information and there's a "receiver" of it.) Hence, the question to girls: What do you think you utilize in "sensing" your man? What do you consciously look for? What do you think triggers the sense of "manliness" in the man for you on the subconscious level? And to guys: same question, but about their view of how girls approach it. :)

Молчание девушек можно расценить как то что они или не думают или не знают. Так почему бы не подумать и не поделиться своими мыслями, "у кого что имеется, конечно." (A. Raykin) :)

There is concept called attraction. It is a gut feeling emotion on the subconscious level. We don't think about it when deciding whether we are attracted to that person or not. Attraction is an emotional response that you don’t control consciously. On the subconscious level girls mate guys who display their manly ornamentation characteristics such as dominance, leadership, initiative, confidence, independence, and etc. Those displays are revealed through communication that is not purely verbal communication. Most of that communication is done though the body language, voice tone, space, time, and the like. Attraction is triggered through those channels of communications which display his sexual fitness. This emotion on the subconscious level surpasses logic and cultural predisposition.
I wish it were the case all the time, but that concept (unfortunately or fortunately?) does not always work. Some times you're not attracted to the guy or girl, but you will still decide to go out again, whether it's because of parental influence or you just want to give the person another chance cuz u want to give him the benefit of a doubt or you're one of those who feel that first impressions may be decieving. My suggestion to guys is - don't get too excited when she says yes to your invite for a second date. take it easy, for both of yours sake. A third date gives you a more or less stable possibility for relationship development.

Guys,
how do you think girls decide if the guy they've just met is a good "dateable" material for them?

I have a short answer for you. If a guy gets it and if a guy can make her feel strong emotions.

I have a short answer for you. If a guy gets it and if a guy can make her feel strong emotions.

You are throwing it all back to the guy -- don't you think girls have some sort of ability to decide on their own? :)

You are throwing it all back to the guy -- don't you think girls have some sort of ability to decide on their own? :)

"Decide on their own" is a very weak statement. Its connotation is of hope and loser mindset. I was talking about making her feel in a way that takes control of her body and mind and that she just can't help it to desire you. To elaborate on what I mean let me quote Carol Lieberman and Lisa Collier from the book Bad Boys. I will use that quote as a metaphor.

"What is a bad boy? He’s a rebel without a cause, a cool dude in a motorcycle jacket, a real-life Huckleberry Finn who wants to take you on a wild river ride to adventure. He’s wounded, moody, misunderstood-a dreamer, a seducer, a daredevil. He is a man of mystery and a fascinating paradox. He’s both a lost little boy and a man with a dark side. He breaks your heart with his wicked ways, but whether he’s a wanton wolf or a dangerous desperado, he makes you long to rescue hi from his pain. He’s hurtful cruel, or simply careless and self-absorbed, but you can’t resist jumping on his motorcycle and roaring off into the steamy night with him. And once you’ve given him you heart forever…he is gone with the wind! He is someone who sets off throbbing sexual and aggressive passions within you. Because he’s aloof and elusive, you get caught up in the challenge and excitement of the chase—though he’s not always someone you’d really want even if you did capture him. A bad boy may tell you he’s generally right. He’s a frog you hope to turn into a fairy-tale prince with the magic of your kiss…”

Now just think about these words. She is talking about an emotion. You can only describe an emotion with words…but imagine the feeling behind the words. “He is someone who sets off throbbing sexual and aggressive passions within you.”
It does not say ‘he convinces you to feel’ or buys you dinner until you like him.’ Rather we are talking about SETTING OFF THROBBING PASSIONS HERE. JUST THINK ABOUT THE POWER OF THOSE FEELINGS. I am not suggesting you to become a bad boy. I just want to show you, that there are certain personality traits, that you can cultivate with in yourself (but leave abuse behind), to make a women feel the same way when you see a hot chick and get hot all over with out thinking about it. It just happens automatically because of our biological programming. Yes, she can change how she feels by influencing her sub-coincidence mind with conscience mind but it is very hard. Just think about how many women went though abuse and torture just to be with a guy who made her feel powerful emotions. Their friends told her ‘leave him he is such a jerk’ but she replied with a cry ‘but I can’t help it. I really love him.’ So she just could not help it, but to forgive him and come back to him. But yes she can reprogram herself though a big effort.

There is concept called attraction. It is a gut feeling emotion on the subconscious level. We don't think about it when deciding whether we are attracted to that person or not. Attraction is an emotional response that you don’t control consciously. On the subconscious level girls mate guys who display their manly ornamentation characteristics such as dominance, leadership, initiative, confidence, independence, and etc. Those displays are revealed through communication that is not purely verbal communication. Most of that communication is done though the body language, voice tone, space, time, and the like. Attraction is triggered through those channels of communications which display his sexual fitness. This emotion on the subconscious level surpasses logic and cultural predisposition.

I could not have said it bette myself. I must add that many people underestimate the meaning or the power of attraction. they call it being shallow.

"Decide on their own" is a very weak statement. Its connotation is of hope and loser mindset. I was talking about making her feel in a way that takes control of her body and mind and that she just can't help it to desire you. To elaborate on what I mean let me quote Carol Lieberman and Lisa Collier from the book Bad Boys. I will use that quote as a metaphor.

"What is a bad boy? He’s a rebel without a cause, a cool dude in a motorcycle jacket, a real-life Huckleberry Finn who wants to take you on a wild river ride to adventure. He’s wounded, moody, misunderstood-a dreamer, a seducer, a daredevil. He is a man of mystery and a fascinating paradox. He’s both a lost little boy and a man with a dark side. He breaks your heart with his wicked ways, but whether he’s a wanton wolf or a dangerous desperado, he makes you long to rescue hi from his pain. He’s hurtful cruel, or simply careless and self-absorbed, but you can’t resist jumping on his motorcycle and roaring off into the steamy night with him. And once you’ve given him you heart forever…he is gone with the wind! He is someone who sets off throbbing sexual and aggressive passions within you. Because he’s aloof and elusive, you get caught up in the challenge and excitement of the chase—though he’s not always someone you’d really want even if you did capture him. A bad boy may tell you he’s generally right. He’s a frog you hope to turn into a fairy-tale prince with the magic of your kiss…”

Now just think about these words. She is talking about an emotion. You can only describe an emotion with words…but imagine the feeling behind the words. “He is someone who sets off throbbing sexual and aggressive passions within you.”
It does not say ‘he convinces you to feel’ or buys you dinner until you like him.’ Rather we are talking about SETTING OFF THROBBING PASSIONS HERE. JUST THINK ABOUT THE POWER OF THOSE FEELINGS. I am not suggesting you to become a bad boy. I just want to show you, that there are certain personality traits, that you can cultivate with in yourself (but leave abuse behind), to make a women feel the same way when you see a hot chick and get hot all over with out thinking about it. It just happens automatically because of our biological programming. Yes, she can change how she feels by influencing her sub-coincidence mind with conscience mind but it is very hard. Just think about how many women went though abuse and torture just to be with a guy who made her feel powerful emotions. Their friends told her ‘leave him he is such a jerk’ but she replied with a cry ‘but I can’t help it. I really love him.’ So she just could not help it, but to forgive him and come back to him. But yes she can reprogram herself though a big effort.

Good points, I guess. It is very sad though. i think often this is the case. :(

"Decide on their own" is a very weak statement. Its connotation is of hope and loser mindset. I was talking about making her feel in a way that takes control of her body and mind and that she just can't help it to desire you. To elaborate on what I mean let me quote Carol Lieberman and Lisa Collier from the book Bad Boys. I will use that quote as a metaphor.

"What is a bad boy? He’s a rebel without a cause, a cool dude in a motorcycle jacket, a real-life Huckleberry Finn who wants to take you on a wild river ride to adventure. He’s wounded, moody, misunderstood-a dreamer, a seducer, a daredevil. He is a man of mystery and a fascinating paradox. He’s both a lost little boy and a man with a dark side. He breaks your heart with his wicked ways, but whether he’s a wanton wolf or a dangerous desperado, he makes you long to rescue hi from his pain. He’s hurtful cruel, or simply careless and self-absorbed, but you can’t resist jumping on his motorcycle and roaring off into the steamy night with him. And once you’ve given him you heart forever…he is gone with the wind! He is someone who sets off throbbing sexual and aggressive passions within you. Because he’s aloof and elusive, you get caught up in the challenge and excitement of the chase—though he’s not always someone you’d really want even if you did capture him. A bad boy may tell you he’s generally right. He’s a frog you hope to turn into a fairy-tale prince with the magic of your kiss…”

Now just think about these words. She is talking about an emotion. You can only describe an emotion with words…but imagine the feeling behind the words. “He is someone who sets off throbbing sexual and aggressive passions within you.”
It does not say ‘he convinces you to feel’ or buys you dinner until you like him.’ Rather we are talking about SETTING OFF THROBBING PASSIONS HERE. JUST THINK ABOUT THE POWER OF THOSE FEELINGS. I am not suggesting you to become a bad boy. I just want to show you, that there are certain personality traits, that you can cultivate with in yourself (but leave abuse behind), to make a women feel the same way when you see a hot chick and get hot all over with out thinking about it. It just happens automatically because of our biological programming. Yes, she can change how she feels by influencing her sub-coincidence mind with conscience mind but it is very hard. Just think about how many women went though abuse and torture just to be with a guy who made her feel powerful emotions. Their friends told her ‘leave him he is such a jerk’ but she replied with a cry ‘but I can’t help it. I really love him.’ So she just could not help it, but to forgive him and come back to him. But yes she can reprogram herself though a big effort.

that's a very weak statement to claim that something is a weak argument without substantiating it, and more importantly, without understanding what the argument is in the first place.

i'm saying that regardless (why can't you get it at last) of what the guy does and/or is, the girl goes through some sort of process when deciding. I want to know whether the girls are aware of what they go through and whether they can state it.

Get it???

that's a very weak statement to claim that something is a weak argument without substantiating it, and more importantly, without understanding what the argument is in the first place.

i'm saying that regardless (why can't you get it at last) of what the guy does and/or is, the girl goes through some sort of process when deciding. I want to know whether the girls are aware of what they go through and whether they can state it.

Get it???

I can't understand what you are you trying to say? What are you talking about?

I can't understand what you are you trying to say? What are you talking about?

have you read my disclaimer?

have you read my disclaimer?
no, that doesn't cut. I cannot live in this word without understanding things. Otherwise i see no point in life. So please, explain.

no, that doesn't cut. I cannot live in this word without understanding things. Otherwise i see no point in life. So please, explain.

if you do decide to worry, there's a trick that many people find useful in helping them to understand statements better (it's a general trick and it often produces positive results from what I know): re-read that what you don't understand.

Hence, the question to girls: What do you think you utilize in "sensing" your man?

we utilize our brain. lol

What do you consciously look for? :)

1st-personally, the first thing i look for is mutual physical attraction.
2nd-His behavior, is he rude, polite, conceited, attentive, considerate,
openminded, has any morals, principles.

3rd-And accplishments in life according to his age. Person's achievement say
a lot about his/her potential.

What do you think triggers the sense of "manliness" in the man for you on the subconscious level? :)

physically? that would be big guys, i mean tall (but that's my personal interest, i don't know about other females) and there is more of course, but I dont know if I should go into details.

Personalitywise, confidence and very clever and humorous.

we utilize our brain. lol



1st-personally, the first thing i look for is mutual physical attraction.
2nd-His behavior, is he rude, polite, conceited, attentive, considerate,
openminded, has any morals, principles.

3rd-And accplishments in life according to his age. Person's achievement say
a lot about his/her potential.



physically? that would be big guys, i mean tall (but that's my personal interest, i don't know about other females) and there is more of course, but I dont know if I should go into details.

Personalitywise, confidence and very clever and humorous.

now you are talking. :)

height is considered an attractive feature in a man practically universally by all women, so it's not just you.

the "1st" is not really an answer -- that was closer to my question. :)
the "2nd" is closer to an answer -- what's in his behavior would turn you off? turn you on?
the "3rd" seems to be present at one level or another. it often blinds people, but works nearly every time. :)

now you are talking. :)

height is considered an attractive feature in a man practically universally by all women, so it's not just you.

the "1st" is not really an answer -- that was closer to my question. :) :)

do you mean for the first one you would like to know exactly what I consider to be physically attractive?

the "2nd" is closer to an answer -- what's in his behavior would turn you off? turn you on?

I do not like rude, impolite, conceited, inattentive, inconsiderate, narrowminded people,who have no morals or principles. and the biggest turn offs are liars, conceited, and rude people

do you mean for the first one you would like to know exactly what I consider to be physically attractive?

One feature you've already described -- height. However, there are tall people that girls don't necessarily find attractive for other reasons; and there are average height people that just seem to have some sort of charisma with them that draw girls. So height can't be the only one. What do you think makes a guy look attractive to you? Short guys might indeed be out of luck -- overwhelmingly, girls don't find them attractive, at least at first.

I do not like rude, impolite, conceited, inattentive, inconsiderate, narrowminded people,who have no morals or principles. and the biggest turn offs are liars, conceited, and rude people

Wouldn't this contradict "bad boy" attractiveness, with the concept of which you seemed to agree?

So height can't be the only one. What do you think makes a guy look attractive to you? ?

Pitch black hair,short hair cut. Clean shaved back of the neck. Gustie brovi. high cheek bones, and almost suare jawline (its not really squared, i guess its more protruding jawline). His smile, some people have magic smiles, very warm. Vzglyad, this one i can't even describe. He either has it or not.

body, I like V shaped (this one is genetic) not many guys seem to have it, even those that work out.

I think all guys have to work out to give a shape to their body.

also, sometimes a guy is ok looking but something about his behavior makes him very, very attractive

also, i forgot to add to personality that intelligence is very attractive, and i dont mean college education.



Wouldn't this contradict "bad boy" attractiveness, with the concept of which you seemed to agree?

wel then I am not attracted to bad boys.

that's a very weak statement to claim that something is a weak argument without substantiating it, and more importantly, without understanding what the argument is in the first place.

I did not say that your argument was weak. I said that it is passive to rely on her decision to be with you. Its connotation is of hope, weakness and loser mindset. Your statement has a mindset that she is choosing you and not the other way around. I substantiated by saying that you have to take active role and to concentrate on you and not on her decisions. You can not ask a girl what she bases her decisions on, because she will tell you what she wants but not what she responds to. She might tell you that she wants a nice, sensitive, apologetic, supportive, caring husband who always does what she wants. But what she wants is not the same to what stimuli she responds to DESIRE YOU. Therefore all this information that you get from girls about what they want in a guy and what they base their decisions on is all useless.

I did not say that your argument was weak. I said that it is passive to rely on her decision to be with you. Its connotation is of hope, weakness and loser mindset. Your statement has a mindset that she is choosing you and not the other way around. I substantiated by saying that you have to take active role and to concentrate on you and not on her decisions. You can not ask a girl what she bases her decisions on, because she will tell you what she wants but not what she responds to. She might tell you that she wants a nice, sensitive, apologetic, supportive, caring husband who always does what she wants. But what she wants is not the same to what stimuli she responds to DESIRE YOU. Therefore all this information that you get from girls about what they want in a guy and what they base their decisions on is all useless.

that's why people date, to compate wants and needs.