View Full Version : My Friend: The Opposite Sex
QueenofLilies 02-08-2006, 12:58 PM Kak dila u vas fseh?
Fsem privet ot Lili :)
Hatela ya be znat...mnogiye gavaryat shto devachka s malchikom eli zhenshina s mushinay ne mogut bit druzyami. Ya lichna ne saglashayus s etim.
Nho hachu yslishat vashi mneniya.
For those who prefer this in English:
Most of you have heard this song before: Guys and girls/men and women cannot be friends. In other words, there must be other intentions between the two genders. I personally do not agree with this statement, but first I would like to "hear" your responses to this statement.
Thank You
alik_05 02-08-2006, 01:03 PM well with friendship there is some sort of emotional feeling with one another, most of the time if the feelings arent expressed and he becomes and thinks a lot about certain actions and most often fantesizes about feelings towards them.
they can be friends indeed...it depends on the individuals most of the time and their situations, but having opposite sex friends, is definitely possible and I know many cases like that, just friends...which reminds me of a romantic comedy movie I recently saw, Just Friends. (has anyone seen it?)
QueenofLilies 02-08-2006, 01:10 PM well with friendship there is some sort of emotional feeling with one another, most of the time if the feelings arent expressed and he becomes and thinks a lot about certain actions and most often fantesizes about feelings towards them.
r u saying that all friends have romantic feelings?
alik_05 02-08-2006, 01:19 PM r u saying that all friends have romantic feelings?
well most part yes, it is just that he wishes to never speak with in one another about it.
QueenofLilies 02-08-2006, 01:21 PM well most part yes, it is just that he wishes to never speak with in one another about it.
hmm interesting
but what I believe you are saying cannot generalize about ALL male friends
MortgageBanker 02-08-2006, 01:39 PM Kak dila u vas fseh?
Fsem privet ot Lili :)
Hatela ya be znat...mnogiye gavaryat shto devachka s malchikom eli zhenshina s mushinay ne mogut bit druzyami. Ya lichna ne saglashayus s etim.
Nho hachu yslishat vashi mneniya.
For those who prefer this in English:
Most of you have heard this song before: Guys and girls/men and women cannot be friends. In other words, there must be other intentions between the two genders. I personally do not agree with this statement, but first I would like to "hear" your responses to this statement.
Thank You
Ya tozhe dumau shto male can't have close friendship with females. Tak bit' druzyami like HI & Bye, doesnt do anything, but anything more then this ne popadaet pod moi ramki...
Natasha 02-08-2006, 01:58 PM Ya tozhe dumau shto male can't have close friendship with females. Tak bit' druzyami like HI & Bye, doesnt do anything, but anything more then this ne popadaet pod moi ramki...
I completely agree with you.
People will never remain friends with someone they are repulsed by. In fact, we try to keep our distance from people we don't like. However, when there is something about a person's character, nature or appearance that we do like or appreciate we tend to stick around and become "friends". If these friends spend time together eventually one or the other will develop romantic feelings (which may not be returned).
But as Mortgage says, to be acquaintances is perfectly normal. It means having the usual pleasantries. If a friend gets engaged/married there should be a mazel tov extended from friends of BOTH sexes because it's the polite and pleasant thing to do. If a friend has a baby, it would be nice to send a card or make phone call to express your happiness to him/her. Similary if a friend is in need of help, one should try to extend one's help, but be sure not to go overboard and fall into a situation from where temptation may arise.
Shoshy 02-08-2006, 03:22 PM Kak dila u vas fseh?
Fsem privet ot Lili :)
Hatela ya be znat...mnogiye gavaryat shto devachka s malchikom eli zhenshina s mushinay ne mogut bit druzyami. Ya lichna ne saglashayus s etim.
Nho hachu yslishat vashi mneniya.
For those who prefer this in English:
Most of you have heard this song before: Guys and girls/men and women cannot be friends. In other words, there must be other intentions between the two genders. I personally do not agree with this statement, but first I would like to "hear" your responses to this statement.
Thank You
I personally disagree with that saying becuase my closest freinds are from the "opposite sex". I could never ask for better freinds then them. if a freindship develpes into something else, that that is a different story, but there does not need be any factors of attraction or other reasons for a guy and a girl to be freinds.
Executive 02-08-2006, 06:14 PM The key to opposite gender relationships ("friendships") to stay platonic is for both parties to be physically and/or romantically disinterested in each other. Atleast enough not to take things to a more serious level.. In many cases one of the parties has more interest than the other, however does not reveal it or supresses it...This is not attempted specifically, rather it manifests naturally. So we see these types of friendships often these days.
Otherwise I think opposite gender friendships are more productive than same sex due to the lack of the "jealousy factor". Since both genders cannot envy one another for much, they have less arguments and inner contempt, and more room for true sincere friendship..
goldenmalach 02-08-2006, 06:31 PM A friendship between a guy and a girl, in the end one will end up liking the other, no matter what.
Executive 02-08-2006, 07:29 PM A friendship between a guy and a girl, in the end one will end up liking the other, no matter what.
Possible, but it takes mutual interest to get things going :). "Hotet ne vredno" as they say, and rejection prevails... :innoc08:
yitzel4ritzel 02-08-2006, 08:01 PM Kak dila u vas fseh?
Fsem privet ot Lili :)
Hatela ya be znat...mnogiye gavaryat shto devachka s malchikom eli zhenshina s mushinay ne mogut bit druzyami. Ya lichna ne saglashayus s etim.
Nho hachu yslishat vashi mneniya.
For those who prefer this in English:
Most of you have heard this song before: Guys and girls/men and women cannot be friends. In other words, there must be other intentions between the two genders. I personally do not agree with this statement, but first I would like to "hear" your responses to this statement.
Thank You
in my opinion, guys are more likely to develop feelings for their female friend as opposed to girls developing feelings for their male friend. im talkin bout a close friendship (not a hi n bye type). since i cant talk for any other male but me, personally i know that if i become a close friend wit a girl n if i dont have a significant other by my side at the time, i will definately develop certain non-friend type of feelings. It happened, is happening n will happen.
Executive 02-08-2006, 08:46 PM in my opinion, guys are more likely to develop feelings for their female friend as opposed to girls developing feelings for their male friend. im talkin bout a close friendship (not a hi n bye type). since i cant talk for any other male but me, personally i know that if i become a close friend wit a girl n if i dont have a significant other by my side at the time, i will definately develop certain non-friend type of feelings. It happened, is happening n will happen.
Speak for yourself buddy... :innoc08:
yitzel4ritzel 02-08-2006, 09:05 PM Speak for yourself buddy... :innoc08:
well except for the first sentence, thats exacly wat i've been doin :tongue12:
hmm maybe i should've made a new paragraph to point out that my opinion comes from my own experience[s] and of course from what i've been hearing from my close male friends...next time i will try to be clearer
Tssipa 02-08-2006, 09:25 PM Kak dila u vas fseh?
Fsem privet ot Lili
Hatela ya be znat...mnogiye gavaryat shto devachka s malchikom eli zhenshina s mushinay ne mogut bit druzyami. Ya lichna ne saglashayus s etim.
Nho hachu yslishat vashi mneniya.
For those who prefer this in English:
Most of you have heard this song before: Guys and girls/men and women cannot be friends. In other words, there must be other intentions between the two genders. I personally do not agree with this statement, but first I would like to "hear" your responses to this statement.
Thank You
People discussed this question 100 times before and here we go again. I guess every generation has to go through this.
I always said that a true friendship between opposite sexes is impossible.
This time I would like to say that, a friendship between same sex and opposite sex is possible, BUT it's different. In fact a friendship between same sex couples is different from one to the next: One friendship is based on hobbies(people like to attend museums together, or ) or other interests, such as going to clubs/shopping/or enjoying talking to someone; another friendship, can be based on school (people share classes or study together), so on and so forth.
Also, all the relationships/friendships based on something. These things could be something that one admits to self or something that one denies(and therefore comes to conclusion that his/her friendship is not based on something. It's just a friendship, whatever it may be.)
Now, think of all the friendships/relationships you have. These people that you interact with if you realize that you have nothing to gain from the relationship (and it can be any kind of gain(mental, physical, emotional pleasure you feel from this interaction (or gratification that you feel from not receiving something from this union but may be giving/helping someone), etc...)) will you continue your friendship?
.......or will you not be able to find the reason to stay in contact with this person? What will be your motivation to maintain that contact?
Now, think about those people that you let go, those people with whom you were friends or someone you knew. Why aren't you still friends? (For the sake of clarity of this post, please disregard those friendships/relationships where, you were not responsible for the termination of that union.)
it all depends on your definition of a friend and a friendship.
Word History: A friend is a lover, literally. The relationship between Latin amhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/imacr.gifcus “friend” and amhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/omacr.gif “I love” is clear, as is the relationship between Greek philos “friend” and philehttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/omacr.gif “I love.” In English, though, we have to go back a millennium before we see the verb related to friend. At that time, frhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/emacr.gifond, the Old English word for “friend,” was simply the present participle of the verb frhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/emacr.gifon, “to love.” The Germanic root behind this verb is *frhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/imacr.gif-, which meant “to like, love, be friendly to.” Closely linked to these concepts is that of “peace,” and in fact Germanic made a noun from this root, *frithu-, meaning exactly that. Ultimately descended from this noun are the personal names Frederick, “peaceful ruler,” and Siegfried, ”victory peace.” The root also shows up in the name of the Germanic deity Frigg, the goddess of love, who lives on today in the word Friday, “day of Frigg,” from an ancient translation of Latin Veneris dihttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/emacr.gifs, “day of Venus.”
QueenofLilies 02-08-2006, 09:57 PM The key to opposite gender relationships ("friendships") to stay platonic is for both parties to be physically and/or romantically disinterested in each other. Atleast enough not to take things to a more serious level.. In many cases one of the parties has more interest than the other, however does not reveal it or supresses it...This is not attempted specifically, rather it manifests naturally. So we see these types of friendships often these days.
Otherwise I think opposite gender friendships are more productive than same sex due to the lack of the "jealousy factor". Since both genders cannot envy one another for much, they have less arguments and inner contempt, and more room for true sincere friendship..
you know what,I agree with your last statement very much. But what I also believe is that although the female sex may seem to have a sincere friendship, if some kind of serious argument comes up and they end up in a final quarrel, they don't mind forgetting one another and of course hating one another once and for all. However, I cannot say the same for the males. I see them saying something like ..."Ok forget it bro, let's just move on." Executive, you being a guy, can you relate to that?
alik_05 02-08-2006, 11:07 PM A friendship between a guy and a girl, in the end one will end up liking the other, no matter what.
yeh i think that happened to me, this girl which i liked for 4 yrs i never told her how i felt, than out of no where she told me day before yerday that she has a boyfriend. that just killed me! now i try not to talk to her avoid her.
seems weird but hey thats what love does to use even that other party does not know about the feelings of secret love with friends.
Tssipa 02-09-2006, 12:56 AM yeh i think that happened to me, this girl which i liked for 4 yrs i never told her how i felt, than out of no where she told me day before yerday that she has a boyfriend. that just killed me! now i try not to talk to her avoid her.
seems weird but hey thats what love does to use even that other party does not know about the feelings of secret love with friends.
your behavior probably let her know that you were interested. So to keep you where you are she told you. So, it was not out of no where, you had it coming.
Executive 02-09-2006, 01:40 AM your behavior probably let her know that you were interested. So to keep you where you are she told you. So, it was not out of no where, you had it coming.
Why do you always assume girls would ALWAYS stoop to LYING in order to turn someone down? Especially in Alik's case I DOUBT that was the case. He knew her for so many years, I am sure she thought of him as a friend, and she happened to have really met someone recently..
Executive 02-09-2006, 01:43 AM Well, I would like to add that my current girlfriend and I were friends initially (for a very short period of time lol) and it very quickly grew into something more. Its when everyone tries hard and goes on dates with "serious intentions" that it puts strain on both individuals. People should be layed back, open minded and friendly... Then everything will fall into place...
Bellissima 02-09-2006, 11:03 AM Well, I would like to add that my current girlfriend and I were friends initially (for a very short period of time lol) and it very quickly grew into something more. Its when everyone tries hard and goes on dates with "serious intentions" that it puts strain on both individuals. People should be layed back, open minded and friendly... Then everything will fall into place...
I agree:happy65: People should be going out on dates with the intention of just making a "new" friend in life. It just makes it easy on both individuals.
LastochkaFM 02-09-2006, 11:25 AM Being a friend with someone is not a base for developed feelings. It has to do with that one person. I always had more guy friends then girlfriends, but I didn’t have feelings for all them whether I was attached to someone or not.
Jewishguy 02-09-2006, 11:42 AM I agree:happy65: People should be going out on dates with the intention of just making a "new" friend in life. It just makes it easy on both individuals.
lets be friends then..............:):tongue12:
QueenofLilies 02-09-2006, 12:53 PM Being a friend with someone is not a base for developed feelings. It has to do with that one person. I always had more guy friends then girlfriends, but I didn’t have feelings for all them whether I was attached to someone or not.
I guess I am not alone in making more guy than girl friends:party39:
Bellissima 02-09-2006, 02:13 PM I guess I am not alone in making more guy than girl friends:party39:
Nope, you are not.....cause i'm in the same boat too.
Executive 02-09-2006, 02:52 PM Being a friend with someone is not a base for developed feelings. It has to do with that one person. I always had more guy friends then girlfriends, but I didn’t have feelings for all them whether I was attached to someone or not.
I strongly believe in this quote:
"All love that has not friendship for its base, is like a castle built upon sand."
Another problem with many girls today is that they donot follow their hearts but rather go by what I call "the check list". This check list is responsible for most of the divorces today in my opinion. This quote says something that is generally very correct about todays society:
"The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift."
Albert Einstein
alik_05 02-09-2006, 03:52 PM my behavior had nothing to do with it,
So to keep you where you are she told you.
Hmmm still trying to fiqure it out what does this senetance mean?
QueenofLilies 02-09-2006, 10:58 PM my behavior had nothing to do with it,
Hmmm still trying to fiqure it out what does this senetance mean?
I think what she meant is that she wanted to stay friends with you, not anything more, thats why she told you that she was going out with someone, whether its true or not.
Sorry Alik, but I am sure your heart will find your other half where your and her feelings will be mutual
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