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crispy 06-06-2006, 05:17 PM Ladies,
A favor to ask, it only takes a minute....
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Please tell ten friends to tell ten today! The Breast Cancer site is having trouble getting enough people to click on their site daily to meet their
quota of donating at least one free mammogram a day to an underprivileged woman. It takes less than a minute to go to their site and click on "donating a mammogram" for free (pink window in the middle).This doesn't cost you a thing. Their corporatesponsors/advertisers use the number of daily visits to donate mammogram in exchange for advertising.
Here's the web site! Pass it along to people you know.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
AGAIN , PLEASE TELL 10 FRIENDS TO TELL 10 TODAY
Thank you for supporting this important cause.
OceanofMemories 06-06-2006, 05:30 PM money-hungry murderers
Jew4Life 06-06-2006, 05:32 PM ACS just had a raley on June 3rd @ Astoria park, we had a bukh group there...
money-hungry murderers
huh?...
Executive 06-06-2006, 06:11 PM money-hungry murderers
Umnichka!! :D. AGK, read up on the facts bro. These "non profit" groups, organizations are fronts for Big Pharma..
Executive 06-06-2006, 06:12 PM ACS just had a raley on June 3rd @ Astoria park, we had a bukh group there...
ACS (American Cancer Society) is the most EVIL, WEALTHIEST, FRONT GROUP FOR BIG PHARMA ON THE PLANET!! DUDE, YOUR VERY NAIVE..
With their goal being:
"TO ONE DAY MAKE CANCER A CHRONICALLY MANAGEABLE DISEASE"
Read up on reality people!! :
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Industry-funded_organizations
Milky_Way_NY 06-06-2006, 06:42 PM Ladies,
A favor to ask, it only takes a minute....
***
Please tell ten friends to tell ten today! The Breast Cancer site is having trouble getting enough people to click on their site daily to meet their
quota of donating at least one free mammogram a day to an underprivileged woman. It takes less than a minute to go to their site and click on "donating a mammogram" for free (pink window in the middle).This doesn't cost you a thing. Their corporatesponsors/advertisers use the number of daily visits to donate mammogram in exchange for advertising.
Here's the web site! Pass it along to people you know.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
AGAIN , PLEASE TELL 10 FRIENDS TO TELL 10 TODAY
Thank you for supporting this important cause.
Should I also try to market my web site this way?
crispy 06-06-2006, 07:32 PM Should I also try to market my web site this way?
lol it's not my website. i got an e-mail from a close friend, figured I'd do some good and post it... didn't realize it would spike up so much controversy.
Jew4Life 06-07-2006, 10:38 AM ACS (American Cancer Society) is the most EVIL, WEALTHIEST, FRONT GROUP FOR BIG PHARMA ON THE PLANET!! DUDE, YOUR VERY NAIVE..
With their goal being:
"TO ONE DAY MAKE CANCER A CHRONICALLY MANAGEABLE DISEASE"
Read up on reality people!! :
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Industry-funded_organizations
dude, where did you get taht from... :mad25:
Executive 06-07-2006, 12:21 PM dude, where did you get taht from... :mad25:
American Cancer Society official quoted in an article on CNN regarding their goal towards the "treatment" of cancer.. Its their nicely hidden mission statement.. Dude, show your intellectual open-mindedness and read up on some best selling whistle blower books that have been recently published, mainly: Kevin Trudea's book that has been incorrectly titled for the type of information it contains. Also, the soon to be released book: "The Hudred Year Lie" http://www.hundredyearlie.com
Jew4Life 06-07-2006, 01:21 PM American Cancer Society official quoted in an article on CNN regarding their goal towards the "treatment" of cancer.. Its their nicely hidden mission statement.. Dude, show your intellectual open-mindedness and read up on some best selling whistle blower books that have been recently published, mainly: Kevin Trudea's book that has been incorrectly titled for the type of information it contains. Also, the soon to be released book: "The Hudred Year Lie" http://www.hundredyearlie.com
oy vavoy, i'm not realy into reading such things. But thanks for teh suggestion...:)
Executive 06-07-2006, 01:25 PM oy vavoy, i'm not realy into reading such things. But thanks for teh suggestion...:)
if you don't read, you will never learn, and if you never learn you WILL remain stupid :).
Remember the Chinese definition of insanity is, “Doing the same thing over and over, but expecting a different result.”
:D
FriendlyPA 06-07-2006, 07:52 PM ACS (American Cancer Society) is the most EVIL, WEALTHIEST, FRONT GROUP FOR BIG PHARMA ON THE PLANET!! DUDE, YOUR VERY NAIVE..
With their goal being:
"TO ONE DAY MAKE CANCER A CHRONICALLY MANAGEABLE DISEASE"
Read up on reality people!! :
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Industry-funded_organizations
ACS Mission Statement (from their website)
The American Cancer Society is the nationwide community-based voluntary health organization dedicated to eliminating cancer as a major health problem by preventing cancer, saving lives, and diminishing suffering from cancer, through research, education, advocacy, and service.
Please do not take someone's article where a person is stating his opinion as a fact. Instead, concentrate on getting official information (like from their website directly).
Executive 06-07-2006, 07:57 PM ACS Mission Statement (from their website)
The American Cancer Society is the nationwide community-based voluntary health organization dedicated to eliminating cancer as a major health problem by preventing cancer, saving lives, and diminishing suffering from cancer, through research, education, advocacy, and service.
Please do not take someone's article where a person is stating his opinion as a fact. Instead, concentrate on getting official information (like from their website directly).
First of all, they are not even doing what their above mission statement says, SECONDLY, where is the part about finding cures? Its a bunch of generalized double-talk, thats supposed to have some sort of element of psychological comfort..
FriendlyPA 06-07-2006, 08:18 PM First of all, they are not even doing what their above mission statement says, SECONDLY, where is the part about finding cures? Its a bunch of generalized double-talk, thats supposed to have some sort of element of psychological comfort..
I disagree with you on this. Since cancer was first identified, cancer treatment has improved as a whole, and today we have better treatment for most cancer than we ever did (i'm not saying that the treatment is perfect, but it is still better than we had before). Do we need improvement? Sure!!!! Do we have to look for new avenues of treament and try to improve early identification and treatment? Definately!!! However, this does not mean that ACS does not follow their mission statement.
You have to understand one thing. If all diseases known to man today had a cure, I am almost positive, that disease would evolve and new diseases would come out, so we'd still be where we are today (looking for cures). This is a normal process, and unfortunately allows bashing room for individuals like Trudeau, yourself and others. I am not saying that criticism is bad, but I do not think that just because you feel that way, it is a fact, and should be used to brainwash others.
If you would like to educate others, be my guest. Present facts, and have them decide what's right and wrong. But do not insult them if they do not believe what you believe.
alik_05 06-07-2006, 08:33 PM here we go again battle yet begins between two medical nerds! :)
skazka 06-07-2006, 08:42 PM here we go again battle yet begins between two medical nerds! :)
lol :happy65: :happy65: good one
Executive 06-07-2006, 08:45 PM I disagree with you on this. Since cancer was first identified, cancer treatment has improved as a whole, and today we have better treatment for most cancer than we ever did (i'm not saying that the treatment is perfect, but it is still better than we had before). Do we need improvement? Sure!!!! Do we have to look for new avenues of treament and try to improve early identification and treatment? Definately!!! However, this does not mean that ACS does not follow their mission statement.
You have to understand one thing. If all diseases known to man today had a cure, I am almost positive, that disease would evolve and new diseases would come out, so we'd still be where we are today (looking for cures). This is a normal process, and unfortunately allows bashing room for individuals like Trudeau, yourself and others. I am not saying that criticism is bad, but I do not think that just because you feel that way, it is a fact, and should be used to brainwash others.
If you would like to educate others, be my guest. Present facts, and have them decide what's right and wrong. But do not insult them if they do not believe what you believe.
Point is, they are purposefully looking in the wrong direction due to the patent system, synthetics dominating the market and the propogation of the technology over nature mentality. THIS MENTALITY IS SPAWNING NEW DISEASE AT ALARMING RATES, not to mention the MAIN CAUSE OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF IATROGENICLY INDUCED DEATHS EVERY YEAR!!
Lets take a look at how they totally fudge the numbers and evasively disseminate "facts". Cancer for example, they disseminate propoganda that "DEATH RATES ARE DOWN" from cancer while very intentionally not mentioning that NEWLY DIAGNOSED CASES ARE UP!!
And whos to say that the death rates are really down? I mean, everyone dies eventually? Maybe they are saying the CANCER IS NOT WHAT KILLS THEM??? OH WAIT, I think I know how this works. The chemo/radiation kills the patient, automatically placing them in a non-cancer death. Death by the treatment may not be part of this statistic. Or perhaps the new drugs spur off more dangerous side effects that create a new disease that kills them before the cancer has a chance to. The loopholes are numerous. Point is, EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE, WHAT THE ALLOPATHIC BASTARDS LIKE TO CALL: "SPONTANEOUS REMISSIONS" and what normal people call "Cures".
I admit, what is a cure for some people may not cure others, point being atleast its a real cure! And instead of manufacturing pills as supposed magic bullets, we should be promoting complimentary therapies WITH natural non toxic pills as the only paths to true healing (cures). There is no such thing as a magic pharmaceutical bullet. When allopathic caveman medicine (shrouded in in a high-tech suit) is exposed and the world sees that the body is ONE WHOLE and not a bunch of unrelated parts, that is when the truth will be exposed..
We have a collection of proven medical teachings and accumulated uses, studies that span millenia, yet allopathic medicine discredits that purposefully telling everyone that answers to disease ly in the future? Future of what? They are insane!
People come down with infections, not due to the infection, but due to poor immune function for various reasons including, stress, depression, poor nutrition, sluggish detox pathways etc. You think the antibiotic movement didnt know they were going ballistic with highly toxic next generation antibiotics? THEY DID, they just didnt want to change their mentality and needed PATENTS! Instead of developing immunomodulators based on natural polysaccharides and polypeptides like the Russians currently do, they mass produce mycotoxin based antibiotics. Mycotoxins that are carcinogenic, that negatively impact gene expression, suppress immune systems and do more harm.
They allow stealth viruses to slwly kill humanity, disguised as new disease syndromes, they slowly develope vaccines for these after decades of suppressing proper etiological evidence. They have 100's of antibiotics yet 2 or 3 highly toxic antivirals, each approved for 1 or 2 viruses and doesnt even eliminate the entire viral load. Stealth viruses are the Pharma industries ALLIES!!
FriendlyPA, please wake up and smell the cappucino!
Executive 06-07-2006, 10:40 PM here we go again battle yet begins between two medical nerds! :)
:happy65: He always asks for it!!
FriendlyPA 06-07-2006, 11:36 PM Lets take a look at how they totally fudge the numbers and evasively disseminate "facts". Cancer for example, they disseminate propoganda that "DEATH RATES ARE DOWN" from cancer while very intentionally not mentioning that NEWLY DIAGNOSED CASES ARE UP!!
Yes, the newly diagnosed cases are up, but they are up because of better detection methods, and the ability to catch catch cancer earlier!!! The other reason for this, is the fact that people now live longer, and when you live longer, you have a better chance of developing old age diseases such as cancers.
Point is, they are purposefully looking in the wrong direction due to the patent system, synthetics dominating the market and the propogation of the technology over nature mentality. THIS MENTALITY IS SPAWNING NEW DISEASE AT ALARMING RATES, not to mention the MAIN CAUSE OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF IATROGENICLY INDUCED DEATHS EVERY YEAR!!
Lets take a look at how they totally fudge the numbers and evasively disseminate "facts". Cancer for example, they disseminate propoganda that "DEATH RATES ARE DOWN" from cancer while very intentionally not mentioning that NEWLY DIAGNOSED CASES ARE UP!!
And whos to say that the death rates are really down? I mean, everyone dies eventually? Maybe they are saying the CANCER IS NOT WHAT KILLS THEM??? OH WAIT, I think I know how this works. The chemo/radiation kills the patient, automatically placing them in a non-cancer death. Death by the treatment may not be part of this statistic. Or perhaps the new drugs spur off more dangerous side effects that create a new disease that kills them before the cancer has a chance to. The loopholes are numerous. Point is, EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE, WHAT THE ALLOPATHIC BASTARDS LIKE TO CALL: "SPONTANEOUS REMISSIONS" and what normal people call "Cures".
I admit, what is a cure for some people may not cure others, point being atleast its a real cure! And instead of manufacturing pills as supposed magic bullets, we should be promoting complimentary therapies WITH natural non toxic pills as the only paths to true healing (cures). There is no such thing as a magic pharmaceutical bullet. When allopathic caveman medicine (shrouded in in a high-tech suit) is exposed and the world sees that the body is ONE WHOLE and not a bunch of unrelated parts, that is when the truth will be exposed..
We have a collection of proven medical teachings and accumulated uses, studies that span millenia, yet allopathic medicine discredits that purposefully telling everyone that answers to disease ly in the future? Future of what? They are insane!
People come down with infections, not due to the infection, but due to poor immune function for various reasons including, stress, depression, poor nutrition, sluggish detox pathways etc. You think the antibiotic movement didnt know they were going ballistic with highly toxic next generation antibiotics? THEY DID, they just didnt want to change their mentality and needed PATENTS! Instead of developing immunomodulators based on natural polysaccharides and polypeptides like the Russians currently do, they mass produce mycotoxin based antibiotics. Mycotoxins that are carcinogenic, that negatively impact gene expression, suppress immune systems and do more harm.
They allow stealth viruses to slwly kill humanity, disguised as new disease syndromes, they slowly develope vaccines for these after decades of suppressing proper etiological evidence. They have 100's of antibiotics yet 2 or 3 highly toxic antivirals, each approved for 1 or 2 viruses and doesnt even eliminate the entire viral load. Stealth viruses are the Pharma industries ALLIES!!
FriendlyPA, please wake up and smell the cappucino!
You can explain anything in this world and make sense out of it, even if what you are trying to explain is not a fact. Stop being so close minded, and stop bashing the medical system. You, again, are passing your opinions for facts. Everything you say here (your conclusions) are just opinions. As a member of alopathic medicine I can assure you that I have no intentions of purposely finding treatments for cancers that just prolong people's lives without curing them. If I ever get a chance to come up with a cure for something, it will be public right away (partly because that will make me more money overall very quickly). Your theory of alopathic practioners purposely trying to prolong the lives without a cure does not make any sense to me.
OceanofMemories 06-07-2006, 11:40 PM Yes, the newly diagnosed cases are up, but they are up because of better detection methods, and the ability to catch catch cancer earlier!!! The other reason for this, is the fact that people now live longer, and when you live longer, you have a better chance of developing old age diseases such as cancers.
You can explain anything in this world and make sense out of it, even if what you are trying to explain is not a fact. Stop being so close minded, and stop bashing the medical system. You, again, are passing your opinions for facts. Everything you say here (your conclusions) are just opinions. As a member of alopathic medicine I can assure you that I have no intentions of purposely finding treatments for cancers that just prolong people's lives without curing them. If I ever get a chance to come up with a cure for something, it will be public right away (partly because that will make me more money overall very quickly). Your theory of alopathic practioners purposely trying to prolong the lives without a cure does not make any sense to me.
you think it will be allowed to be out there in the public?
FriendlyPA 06-07-2006, 11:57 PM you think it will be allowed to be out there in the public?
Yes I do, it has been allowed up to this point, and it will be allowed now. I think you've been brainwashed by Executive too much.
Let me give you examples of cures: When antibiotics first came out, they were considered cures and did cure a lot of people of that time. Without them, millions and millions would have died durring world war 2 from tuberculosis. The government allowed it, and they are still used. What happened with antibiotics resistance today has to do with evolution of microbes (not that the invention of antibiotics was a bad invention). This same thing will happen with many other future cures, since the diseases will evolve.
Another cure: Stage 1 colon cancer (cancer is limited to the colon, and no spread exists to other body systems) is curable with surgery, where they take a cancerous part of the colon away. The treatment has been approved, and is currently being used and saves lives of many (I personally know at least 2 of my relatives whos lives have been saved thanks to this procedure).
There are many examples like these, and I'd not have enough space here to put them all down. If you are interested, I am willing to post them slowly (maybe 1 by 1) to prove this to you.
Executive 06-08-2006, 12:07 AM Yes I do, it has been allowed up to this point, and it will be allowed now. I think you've been brainwashed by Executive too much.
Let me give you examples of cures: When antibiotics first came out, they were considered cures and did cure a lot of people of that time. Without them, millions and millions would have died durring world war 2 from tuberculosis. The government allowed it, and they are still used. What happened with antibiotics resistance today has to do with evolution of microbes (not that the invention of antibiotics was a bad invention). This same thing will happen with many other future cures, since the diseases will evolve.
Another cure: Stage 1 colon cancer (cancer is limited to the colon, and no spread exists to other body systems) is curable with surgery, where they take a cancerous part of the colon away. The treatment has been approved, and is currently being used and saves lives of many (I personally know at least 2 of my relatives whos lives have been saved thanks to this procedure).
There are many examples like these, and I'd not have enough space here to put them all down. If you are interested, I am willing to post them slowly (maybe 1 by 1) to prove this to you.
You will never be able to come up with an official cure unless you can afford to submit a NDA (New Drug Application) with the FDA. The costs involved exceed $875 Million.
And not only that, if you do get sponsored somehow, if its not completely synthetic (which a cure cannot be) it won't be completely protected by patents and won't make billions as the patented and more useless drugs make.
Secondly, the system won't allow anything to be termed "cure", because the system has twisted the definition of cure into meaning: "a compound that can by itself solely, completely erradicate the indicated disease in 100% of patients treated". With that definition, nothing in the world can and will be applicable. Even the best cures will not guarantee 100% efficacy in EVERY PATIENT especially without a combination approach to the illness...With such a definition for "cure" big pharma has guaranteed itself that there will never be a cure found!! ANd if some NATURAL cure pops up, it will be destroyed by the robotic FDA gestapo before it has a chance to surface..
If anything is claimed to be a cure without going thru the FDA bureacracy, it will be confiscated, and destroyed before it even has a chance to be researched further.. THE SYSTEM HAS TWISTED EVERYTHING!! ONLY BIG PHARMA can apply for new drugs, and push the poison thru the FDA quickly. Their dollars have falsely educated the entire chain of people who work for them and with them. They have over the years, spent so much money, that today they have completely influenced the education of the entire scientific and medical establishment soley to benefit their own business interests and support their twisted philosophy of medicine and illness. They totally control the dissemination of "scientific" "academic" information that most FDA officials and Doctors have access to. THEY OWN THE MINDS OF THE ENTIRE "FOOD CHAIN"!!!!
A cure should be defined as such: "A non toxic natural substance that has a naturally occuring origin or analogue of naturally occuring substance that can harmlessly assist in the highly probable chance of curing several individuals from this particular disease when used in combination with other harmless non toxic natural compounds inorder to increase chances of erradication of the illness".
FriendlyPA 06-08-2006, 12:13 AM You will never be able to come up with an official cure unless you can afford to submit a NDA (New Drug Application) with the FDA. The costs involved exceed $875 Billion.
And not only that, if you do get sponsored somehow, if its not completely synthetic (which a cure cannot be) it won't be completely protected by patents and won't make billions as the patented and more useless drugs make.
Secondly, the system won't allow anything to be termed "cure", because the system has twisted the definition of cure into meaning: "a compound that can by itself solely, completely irradicate the indicated disease in 100% of patients treated". With that definition, nothing in the world can and will be applicable. Even the best cures will not guarantee 100% efficacy in EVERY PATIENT especially without a combination approach to the illness...
If anything is claimed to be a cure without going thru the FDA bureacracy, it will be confiscated, and destroyed before it even has a chance to be researched further.. THE SYSTEM HAS TWISTED EVERYTHING!! ONLY BIG PHARMA can apply for new drugs, and push the poison thru the FDA quickly. Their dollars have falsely educated the entire chain of people who work for them and with them. They have over the years, spent so much money, that today they have completely influenced the education of the entire scientific and medical establishment soley to benefit their own business interests and support their twisted philosophy of medicine and illness. They totally control the dissemination of "scientific" "academic" information that most FDA officials and Doctors have access to. THEY OWN THE MINDS OF THE ENTIRE "FOOD CHAIN"!!!!
Finally, you said something today that I agree with somewhat. There are no true cures for anything, and nothing works in 100% of patients. The cures we have now are just good treatment options that more in more people than placebo (not necessarily drugs, but surgery also), and I don't believe these are as hard to pass through the system as you claim them to be.
Executive 06-08-2006, 12:22 AM Yes I do, it has been allowed up to this point, and it will be allowed now. I think you've been brainwashed by Executive too much.
Let me give you examples of cures: When antibiotics first came out, they were considered cures and did cure a lot of people of that time. Without them, millions and millions would have died durring world war 2 from tuberculosis. The government allowed it, and they are still used. What happened with antibiotics resistance today has to do with evolution of microbes (not that the invention of antibiotics was a bad invention). This same thing will happen with many other future cures, since the diseases will evolve.
Todays pharma tactics cant be compared to the old days when morals and ethics existed to a certain degree. Bacteria were obvious invaders in immuno-suppressed bodies that allowed for their multiplication. They became the immediate enemies when they really weren't, it was the host body that was immune compromised. But either way, yes sometimes bacteria can cause stubborn infections and Pharma had no choice but to come up with a solution. Unlike viruses that need host cells to either lay dormant in or use to replicate further, bacterial infections are very acute, and highly destructive. You either wipe it out completely or you cant, no middle area. Antibiotics were bound to be developed. I wouldnt call them cures, I would call them sanitizers/sterilizers. They are the equivalent of throwing a nuclear bomb on manhattan to kill a few terrorists somewhere on 5th avenue. Today we have REAL illness epidemics that are NOT INFECTIVE and they are on the RISE! They are illnesses of TOXICITY, CHEMICAL POISONING, AND VIRAL MUTAGENISIS and accumulating to the point of causing cellular damage, dysfunction and death..
Tell me friendly why they dont have as many effective antivirals as they do antibiotics? And the antivirals that do exist dont eliminate the entire viral load. They simply put the virus back in a dormant phase.
Another cure: Stage 1 colon cancer (cancer is limited to the colon, and no spread exists to other body systems) is curable with surgery, where they take a cancerous part of the colon away. The treatment has been approved, and is currently being used and saves lives of many (I personally know at least 2 of my relatives whos lives have been saved thanks to this procedure).
There are many examples like these, and I'd not have enough space here to put them all down. If you are interested, I am willing to post them slowly (maybe 1 by 1) to prove this to you.
Surgery isn't a cure, its a PATHETIC LAST RESORT, and all it does is remove an organ when there are problems at the biochemical, cellular level. The problem WILL RECURR AGAIN, but the butchers needed immediate relief, so they obvioulsy remove the suffering and afflicted organ/area. That is PRIMITIVE medicine. Remove the symptom once again, instead of knock out the root..By the way, removing a tumor doesn't cure cancer. It removes the afflicted organ, but the dysfunctional cellular phases are still present!! Its a magic trick that will come back and haunt the patient again, and this time with a vengeance..
Executive 06-08-2006, 12:25 AM Finally, you said something today that I agree with somewhat. There are no true cures for anything, and nothing works in 100% of patients. The cures we have now are just good treatment options that more in more people than placebo (not necessarily drugs, but surgery also), and I don't believe these are as hard to pass through the system as you claim them to be.
You have such selective reading.. Reread the updates on that post..
PS: If the "cure" is even marketed and submitted to the FDA as a regular "treatment" but it happens to have a high cure rate for a major illness, it will NEVER BE ALLOWED TO BE APPROVED!! Pharma big boys have inside people who work at the FDA that also work in the private sector, or will after they leave. This is a very real fact that they donot hide.
FriendlyPA 06-08-2006, 08:19 AM You have such selective reading.. Reread the updates on that post..
PS: If the "cure" is even marketed and submitted to the FDA as a regular "treatment" but it happens to have a high cure rate for a major illness, it will NEVER BE ALLOWED TO BE APPROVED!! Pharma big boys have inside people who work at the FDA that also work in the private sector, or will after they leave. This is a very real fact that they donot hide.
OK, this is it. I gave my side of the story, you gave yours, there is no point of us going back and forth, since there are topics we will never agree on. That's the beauty of science. There is always controversy.
Just a side note. A lot of how medicine is practiced today is centered around patient demands and customer service. I'll give you a personal example. I was called once at 3:00 AM to see a patient who presented with what looked like a routine presentation of a flu. He felt lousy, high fevers, muscle aches, sneezing, coughing, headaches. I tried as hard as I could to explain to him that in this case antibiotics are not indicated, and all he needs to do is drink fluids, rest and take pain medication, but he insisted on getting a prescription for an antibiotics. He said: "I have this happen to me every 2 years, and my doctor always writes me for antibiotics." He told me, he'd feel better if he took antibiotics, and I ended up writing for them. Not that now I believe it was a bad idea, but this is the reality of medicine.
Executive 06-08-2006, 12:23 PM OK, this is it. I gave my side of the story, you gave yours, there is no point of us going back and forth, since there are topics we will never agree on. That's the beauty of science. There is always controversy.
Just a side note. A lot of how medicine is practiced today is centered around patient demands and customer service. I'll give you a personal example. I was called once at 3:00 AM to see a patient who presented with what looked like a routine presentation of a flu. He felt lousy, high fevers, muscle aches, sneezing, coughing, headaches. I tried as hard as I could to explain to him that in this case antibiotics are not indicated, and all he needs to do is drink fluids, rest and take pain medication, but he insisted on getting a prescription for an antibiotics. He said: "I have this happen to me every 2 years, and my doctor always writes me for antibiotics." He told me, he'd feel better if he took antibiotics, and I ended up writing for them. Not that now I believe it was a bad idea, but this is the reality of medicine.
I just realized I made an error/typo with the cost of an NDA, its $875 million not billion..
FriendlyPA 06-08-2006, 07:48 PM I just realized I made an error/typo with the cost of an NDA, its $875 million not billion..
Thank you...that makes me feel a little better!!!! :party39:
Milky_Way_NY 06-08-2006, 10:29 PM Executive the web site I gave you has a number on the contact us page ... call that number ... i lost the other one.
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