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Matrix
06-16-2005, 05:01 PM
Why do we have to wait for Moshiach to start building Bet HaMigdash (the Temple)?

mafia
06-16-2005, 10:53 PM
hah simple answear, try building it yourself.
lol.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OceanofMemories
06-17-2005, 12:58 AM
do u think that we r worthy of having it now?

Matrix
06-17-2005, 08:49 AM
do u think that we r worthy of having it now?

No, but do you think we will be worthy of having it when Moshiach is gonna come?

Matrix
06-17-2005, 08:52 AM
hah simple answear, try building it yourself.
lol.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Building the Temple is a national matter not an individual matter. Maybe this is why we can't build it, because we're not together.

SOF
06-17-2005, 12:00 PM
It's not that simple. Read this:

"And he will build the Beis Hamikdash:" As the Midrash notes,[89] Moshiach will build the Beis Hamikdash:

"When the King Moshiach who is in the north will arise, he will come and build the Beis Hamikdash which is situated in the south"[90] (i.e. the south part of the Temple Mount).

Rashi and Tosphos, however, maintain that the Beis Hamikdash will come down from Heaven, as they state:[91]

The Third Beis Hamikdash which we eagerly await is already built and furnished; it will be revealed and come from Heaven, as is written,[92] "Your Sanctuary, O G-d, which Your hands have established."

This is also underscored in Tanchuma:[93] G-d swore that He himself will rebuild it, as is written,[94] "G-d builds Jerusalem."

"The Beis-Hamikdash in its place:" Although, in general, only the Altar can never be changed from its place,[95] yet, the whole Temple of the future must be in its original place, as specified in Ezekiel. Also, this will determine who Moshiach really is, by showing the precise site of the Beis Hamikdash.

OceanofMemories
06-17-2005, 02:38 PM
No, but do you think we will be worthy of having it when Moshiach is gonna come?


yes, thats the whole point. mashiach will only come when we r worthy and that automatically means we get our Beit Hamikdash back.

Matrix
06-17-2005, 02:43 PM
yes, thats the whole point. mashiach will only come when we r worthy and that automatically means we get our Beit Hamikdash back.

what is the criterea for "Worty"?

OceanofMemories
06-17-2005, 02:45 PM
when we do what Hashem wants and reach a certain level of kedusha.

OceanofMemories
06-17-2005, 02:51 PM
okay, heres the thing. Mashiach will come. He has to come. If we study Torah and do the mitzvot, then we can help bring mashiach faster. They say that Mashiach HAS to come by the year 6000, so he will come at that time whether we r worthy or not.

thanks wiseprince. ;)

WisePrince7
06-17-2005, 03:17 PM
okay, heres the thing. Mashiach will come. He has to come. If we study Torah and do the mitzvot, then we can help bring mashiach faster. They say that Mashiach HAS to come by the year 6000, so he will come at that time whether we r worthy or not.

thanks wiseprince. ;)

What did I do? Chut' shto srazu wiseprince. :D

Matrix
06-20-2005, 10:08 AM
okay, heres the thing. Mashiach will come. He has to come. If we study Torah and do the mitzvot, then we can help bring mashiach faster. They say that Mashiach HAS to come by the year 6000, so he will come at that time whether we r worthy or not.

thanks wiseprince. ;)


That's exactly my point. If Moshiach is gonna come wether we're worty or not, why can't all jews unite and start building the temple?

OceanofMemories
06-20-2005, 11:05 AM
That's exactly my point. If Moshiach is gonna come wether we're worty or not, why can't all jews unite and start building the temple?


its impossible to build it. Hashem will not let because it is not time. By the year 6000, we might still not be worthy (chas veshalom) but then it will be the time.

Jew4Life
06-20-2005, 02:03 PM
Guys, speaking of Moshiakh. How many brachot(blessings) will we say when we see him? :party36: