Будет ли наше будушее поколение говорить или хотябы знать Бухарскии язык? :happy57:

Уверен что не будит. А нужно ли чтобы они на нём говорили? They will have a totally different identity than our generation and will have no need for it.

Уверен что не будит. А нужно ли чтобы они на нём говорили? They will have a totally different identity than our generation and will have no need for it.


what does SOF stand for? Special Operation Forces?:)

Уверен что не будит. А нужно ли чтобы они на нём говорили? They will have a totally different identity than our generation and will have no need for it.

Я думаю что без своего языка мы не будем иметь свое "Я". Язык ето неотемлемая часть нашеи культуры.

Я думаю что без своего языка мы не будем иметь свое "Я". Язык ето неотемлемая часть нашеи культуры.

We are Jewish. Nash yazik eta Hebrew.
However, I would like it if my children knew Bukharian. Unfortunately it does not seem realistic to assume that future generations in the U.S. will grow up learning Bukharian. Many people in our generation do not know the language, myself included, and therefore it is unlikely that they will pass it on to their children.

When I was little I did not care for Bukharian, it only bothered me that I could not understand my parents' secrets. But now I really want to know it. :(
I like listening to Bukharian music and songs. I guess it's kind of pointless to listen to the songs since I don't understand it, but I ask my dad to translate them for me. It also kind of helps me learn few new words every time.
Yes it would be very sad if our language will go while we stay. It should stay with us. Look at the Latin language, its people are long gone, but the language is still here.

Almost forgot, there are some things that are better said in bukharian than any other language, like jokes, OMG curses I dont think anyone could outdo these in any other language. I hope few years from now on, we will have books that teach Bukharian, if they are already not published.

When I was little I did not care for Bukharian, it only bothered me that I could not understand my parents' secrets. But now I really want to know it. :(
I like listening to Bukharian music and songs. I guess it's kind of pointless to listen to the songs since I don't understand it, but I ask my dad to translate them for me. It also kind of helps me learn few new words every time.
Yes it would be very sad if our language will go while we stay. It should stay with us.
Interesting, few years ago I was in the same case...


Almost forgot, there are some things that are better said in bukharian than any other language, like jokes, OMG curses I dont think anyone could outdo these in any other language.
Got any specific once taht you would like to share withg us? :evilgr39:

I hope few years from now on, we will have books that teach Bukharian, if they are already not published.
Are you interested in purchasing any... :tongue21:

I would like it if my children knew Bukharian. However, Many people in our generation do not know the language, myself included, and therefore it is unlikely that they will pass it on to their children.
It's never to late to start learning something! As they say, vek zhivi, vek uichis'...

Interesting, few years ago I was in the same case...
really? Do you mean you learned it recently?


Got any specific once that you would like to share with us? :evilgr39:

hehehe, not at the moment

Are you interested in purchasing any... :tongue21:

Are you selling?

It's never to late to start learning something! As they say, vek zhivi, vek uichis'...

I try to pick up a word here and there. I am very familiar with one particular phrase: "Natasha!! Yakta choy mon" Did I get the accent right? :happy25:

I try to pick up a word here and there. I am very familiar with one particular phrase: "Natasha!! Yakta choy mon" Did I get the accent right? :happy25:

heheh one person pointed out to me, pochemy odin a ne dvya?

I heard it like that, "Jo-nate gardam, yaaakte choi mo. Alate alas-shivi, maa yak te pisar doram, kakoi ti kelinka haroishi budeeeeesh" :D

This is how old bukharian woman talks.

Yebi...Ma duhtar doram, Collage obrazaniya, Dohtoor meshava, Kelin nahz, Ti hochsh Zhena takaya. Prodam za dva ishaka.

really? Do you mean you learned it recently?
I just learned(still need alot of improvement!) it few years ago...
hehehe, not at the moment?
lolz
Are you selling?
If you arelooking for something specific, I can look into it...

I try to pick up a word here and there.
Famidgi dovam...
I am very familiar with one particular phrase: "Natasha!! Yakta choy mon"
With the above quote and teh following one: "Natasha(Neqadam), iskamam bijir-bijir karsode. Yagon jar-jur kun... Jum!" you will never go whong with a bukharian man. :evilgr39:
Did I get the accent right? :happy25:
Yibi chuva ne' agar tu ekhlegi gapoya gufta natoni, kholu akhvolat balomeshod kaikeki khoni shavkharat ravi... :happy65:

This is how old bukharian woman talks.

Yebi...Ma duhtar doram, Collage obrazaniya, Dohtoor meshava, Kelin nahz, Ti hochsh Zhena takaya. Prodam za dva ishaka.

rahmati kolon. You gave me a good laugh. Prodam za dva ishaka.:happy08:

A teper' yakte malen'ki perevod, porfavor. :D

Famidgi dovam...
bijir-bijir You see what i mean. It sounds great in bukharian. I thin i got the point, but what does it mean exactly? lol

jar-jur kun... Jum!"
and what does this mean?

Yibi chuva ne' agar tu ekhlegi gapoya gufta natoni, kholu akhvolat balomeshod kaikeki khoni shavkharat ravi... :happy65:

heheh one person pointed out to me, pochemy odin a ne dvya?

I heard it like that, "Jo-nate gardam, yaaakte choi mo. Alate alas-shivi, maa yak te pisar doram, kakoi ti kelinka haroishi budeeeeesh" :D

LoL. isn't bukharian language FUN?

We are Jewish. Nash yazik eta Hebrew.
However, I would like it if my children knew Bukharian. Unfortunately it does not seem realistic to assume that future generations in the U.S. will grow up learning Bukharian. Many people in our generation do not know the language, myself included, and therefore it is unlikely that they will pass it on to their children.

Ya soglasen s toboy chto nash yazik eto Hebrew, but Hebrew is a language of a jewish nation as a whole, but Bukharian language, eto otdelno vzyatiy yasik otdelno vzyatoy yevreiskoy kulturi.

Я согласен с тобоы что наш язик ето Хебреw, бут Хебреw ис а лангуаге оф а йеwиш натион ас а wхоле, бут Buharian language, ето отделно взятый язык отделно взятой евреиской културы.

...которая скоро исчезнет. :bonk:

Глубжи надо смотреть. Уже много лет произходит медленний процесс обьединения евреев и возврасчения их из галута. Бухарский, идиш и прочие национальные еврейские языки ето отмираюсчие символы галута за которых цепляться не разумно. :innoc08:

what does SOF stand for? Special Operation Forces?
Click on my profile to find out :)

...которая скоро исчезнет. :bonk:

Глубжи надо смотреть. Уже много лет произходит медленний процесс обьединения евреев и возврасчения их из галута. Бухарский, идиш и прочие национальные еврейские языки ето отмираюсчие символы галута за которых цепляться не разумно. :innoc08:

Togda, izhodya is tvoix slov, znachit nestoit razvevat nashu bukharskuyu kulturu voobshe?

Ничего подобного. Те кто в ней вырос могут продолжать её следоват. А новому поколению, кроме разве что еды и музыки, етого уже не надо. Вообсче ето естественный процесс. Время само всё poставит на место. Вон уже религиозные ассимилуруются в мировое еврейство, а светские или растворяются среди гоев или же религиозными становятся. Тут много выбора нет.

A teper' yakte malen'ki perevod, porfavor. :D
You see what i mean. It sounds great in bukharian. I thin i got the point, but what does it mean exactly? lol and what does this mean?
Yesli I do tarjima, eto will loose its ma'ano... :happy25:

Yesli I do tarjima, eto will loose its ma'ano... :happy25:


eeeeeh, nu chto ti tak? Ya zhe dolzhna kak to nauchit'sya. :)

eeeeeh, nu chto ti tak? Ya zhe dolzhna kak to nauchit'sya. :)
I see someone is interested in learning Bukharian...

Я думаю что без своего языка мы не будем иметь свое "Я". Язык ето неотемлемая часть нашеи культуры.

I TOTALY AGREE

Я думаю что без своего языка мы не будем иметь свое "Я". Язык ето неотемлемая часть нашеи культуры.
К твоему сведению, большинство бухарской молодёжи да и многие их родители не говорят на бухарском. Ето факт. А всё остальное ето пустая болтовня. Чтобы сохранит язык нужно создавать закрытые обсчины как у хасидов в Бруклине. А так ето всё безполезно.

К твоему сведению, большинство бухарской молодёжи да и многие их родители не говорят на бухарском. Ето факт. А всё остальное ето пустая болтовня. Чтобы сохранит язык нужно создавать закрытые обсчины как у хасидов в Бруклине. А так ето всё безполезно.
Kak goviritza, "Yak roz ne', yak roz nagz shuda meri..."

К твоему сведению, большинство бухарской молодёжи да и многие их родители не говорят на бухарском. Ето факт. А всё остальное ето пустая болтовня. Чтобы сохранит язык нужно создавать закрытые обсчины как у хасидов в Бруклине. А так ето всё безполезно.

То что многие незнают бухарскии язык ето я знаю. Ну, наверное вопрос сеичас не стоит как сохранить язик, а вопрос в том что нужно ли его сохронить?

A Language is directly associated with it's people/culture. For those who want to keep the bukharian culture alive, it's not even necessary to teach it to our kids, just speak it amongs your spause or parents, the children will catch on. Even if they won't speak it they will at least aknowledge the existence of a culture. For those who don't think that it's necessary, that's also fine, eventually it will perish through the cracks of time. I'm more concerned about the servival of our culture than the language. I wouldn't mind if my kids wouldn't speak the language, but I will make sure to teach them that it exists and talk about our culture. I wouldn't allow the rich history of my parents and grandparents to go unnoticed. It deserves to be aknowledged.

I'm more concerned about the servival of our culture than the language.

You know what they say? First goes the language, then the culture follows. In the near future, our culture will not exist in the form it does today because of all the influences from the outside world. You can't stop the change, you can only influence the direction in which it will flow. :happy25:

You know what they say? First goes the language, then the culture follows. In the near future, our culture will not exist in the form it does today because of all the influences from the outside world. You can't stop the change, you can only influence the direction in which it will flow. :happy25:

You forgot to mention people after the culture

In the near future, our culture will not exist in the form it does today because of all the influences from the outside world. You can't stop the change, you can only influence the direction in which it will flow. :happy25:

eto samo saboi. I don't know if u read the 2B magazine, but in the last issue there was an article concerning the ten lost tribes of israel. according to the article these tribes were found in Afganistan. This was disconvered by some historian who observed the people there and revealed that these people wear 4 corner garments (tzitzit) and light candles on friday night. Supposedly, they don't know where their customs originated from, but the historian presumes that these are the desendents of the ten lost tribes who have asimilated over the generation, but nontheless follow these handed down traditions. With that being said, we keep our traditions and our traditions keep us. In the case of the found "lost tribes", if not for those traditions that it's people follow the historian would have never been able to trace the origin of these people to the historic "Ten Lost Tribes". So, if all we can do is influence the direction of change, my question to you is, how would you influence the direction?

So, if all we can do is influence the direction of change, my question to you is, how would you influence the direction?


Выборов у нас не так уж много да и я уже их опямянал ранее:
Вон уже религиозные ассимилуруются в мировое еврейство, а светские или растворяются среди гоев или же религиозными становятся.

Выборов у нас не так уж много да и я уже их опямянал ранее:
I disagree - вьiбор всегда наидетса главное желаниые

I disagree - вьiбор всегда наидетса главное желаниые
As one of my signatures states "Az banda kharakat, az Khudo barakat."

As one of my signatures states "Az banda kharakat, az Khudo barakat."
exactly! by the way, Jew4Life, I like your signature(s). couldn't have says it better myself!

exactly! by the way, Jew4Life, I like your signature(s). couldn't have says it better myself!
Thank you!
Where are you originaly from?

Господа, вы не поняли. "Бухарство" :evilgr39: ето толко способ выживания евреев в Средней Азии среди мусульманских народов. Так же как и "хундулстьво" :evilgr39: в Европе. Когда условия жизни меняутся, меняутся и средства выживания.

Господа, вы не поняли. "Бухарство" :evilgr39: ето толко способ выживания евреев в Средней Азии среди мусульманских народов. Так же как и "хундулстьво" :evilgr39: в Европе. Когда условия жизни меняутся, меняутся и средства выживания.
Not tatally true! :evilgr39: :happy25:

Господа, вы не поняли. "Бухарство" :евилгр39: ето толко способ выживания евреев в Средней Азии среди мусульманских народов. Так же как и "хундулстьво" :евилгр39: в Европе. Когда условия жизни меняутся, меняутся и средства выживания.

средство вижевания меняутса но всетаки они пытаютца вижеть не жертвоя нацинализмом. besides, не думоеш ли ты што как евреи, нам бы неповредил какои либо способ вижевание в америки на наше же благо?

Ну зачем так сразу? Евреи ето вечность, а все остальные сусчествуют толко временно :sign63: . Я еврейский националист и поддерживаю ассимиляцию в контексте мирового еврейства.

Я еврейский националист и поддерживаю ассимиляцию в контексте мирового еврейства.

входит ли религия (еудаисм) в кантекст твоыего "мирового евреиство"? есле "да" то на коком уровне?

ya nadeyoos shto boodet
ya maladaya ee razgavareevayoo na bukharskom yezeeke patamooshta babushka apshalas samnoy na etom yezeeke. Fso eemeyet veedoo yeslee tee akroozhon okola etava yezeeka.

входит ли религия (еудаисм) в кантекст твоыего "мирового евреиство"? есле "да" то на коком уровне?
Yes. At any level.

ya nadeyoos shto boodet
ya maladaya ee razgavareevayoo na bukharskom yezeeke patamooshta babushka apshalas samnoy na etom yezeeke. Fso eemeyet veedoo yeslee tee akroozhon okola etava yezeeka.
Interesno, why dont you try to speak Bukhori once in a while here in our e-family... :evilgr39:

Yes. At any level.
I am very glad to hear that!! :happy25:

Господа и дамы, вы когда нибудь задумывались почему иврит не сохранился среди евреев диаспоры, хотя в бухарском языке есть не мало ивритских слов, "хамор" :happy08: например?

Господа и дамы, вы когда нибудь задумывались почему иврит не сохранился среди евреев диаспоры, хотя в бухарском языке есть не мало ивритских слов, "хамор" :хаппы08: например?

Почему не сохранилcя, многие бухарские и другие евреи диаспоры знают и говорят на иврите :happy25:

Interesno, why dont you try to speak Bukhori once in a while here in our e-family... :evilgr39:


Tu mefamee Bukhoree agar man gav mezanam tu kati?: :evilgr39:

Почему не сохранилця, многие бухарские и другие евреи диаспоры знают и говорят на иврите :хаппы25:
В Израиле и сейчас не считается. До востановления государства Израиль, иврит был мёртвым языком. А почему? Потому что на нём не было нужды разговаривать. :happy25:

В Израиле и сейчас не считается. До востановления государства Израиль, иврит был мёртвым языком. А почему? Потому что на нём не было нужды разговаривать. :хаппы25:


Может бить его небыло в массовом употреблении, но те кто учил Тору знали иврит и говорили между собои на иврите

Даже те кто знали не говорили. Одно дело уметь читать и знат значения слов, а другое дело говорить. Што ты думаеш хасиды между собой на иврите разговаривают? Они только ивритский алфавит исползовали, типа транслита, для написания на идише и других етнических языках.

Даже те кто знали не говорили. Одно дело уметь читать и знат значения слов, а другое дело говорить. Што ты думаеш хасиды между собой на иврите разговаривают? Они только ивритский алфавит исползовали, типа транслита, для написания на идише и других етнических языках.

Я уверен что говорят в тех или иных случаях, но факт тот что даже если знаешь но не говоришь на етом язике, ето не значит что он потерян, но есть шанс что может потеряться так же как и есть шанс что может восродиться

Tu mefamee Bukhoree agar man gav mezanam tu kati?: :evilgr39:
Yibi, chuve ne? Koshke yagontoton Bukhori gap zaneton. Roz ba roz zaboni Bukhori az yodam baramasode'... :evilgr39:

Будет ли наше будушее поколение говорить или хотябы знать Бухарскии язык? :happy57:

So, I was thinking, in order to make sure that the next generation of Bukharian people understands and speaks Bukharian, Boojle will give lessons.
And, since I do not make rules on Boojle, I am proposing this idea to our Boojle staff. What does everyone thinks about it? People share your thoughts, please.

So, I was thinking, in order to make sure that the next generation of Bukharian people understands and speaks Bukharian, Boojle will give lessons.
And, since I do not make rules on Boojle, I am proposing this idea to our Boojle staff. What does everyone thinks about it? People share your thoughts, please.
yes! as a matter of fact I was just thinking about that :)
btw kol ha'kavod :happy65: to all boojle members who express themselves in bukharian from time to time - it cracks me up :happy08: I love it!!

So, I was thinking, in order to make sure that the next generation of Bukharian people understands and speaks Bukharian, Boojle will give lessons.
And, since I do not make rules on Boojle, I am proposing this idea to our Boojle staff. What does everyone thinks about it? People share your thoughts, please.
:happy64: WoW, tahts a cool idea! :party11:

yes! kol ha'kavod :happy65: to all boojle members who express themselves in bukharian from time to time - it cracks me up :happy08: I love it!!
:lolb: Thanks! dont hasitate to join us once in a while... :cool43:

So, I was thinking, in order to make sure that the next generation of Bukharian people understands and speaks Bukharian, Boojle will give lessons.
And, since I do not make rules on Boojle, I am proposing this idea to our Boojle staff. What does everyone thinks about it? People share your thoughts, please.


Padarat ba rahmat :happy65:

in order to make sure that the next generation of Bukharian people understands and speaks Bukharian, Boojle will give lessons.
Any other suggestions or comments regarding this issue?
And has any one sponed to the Admins about this great idea...

Any other suggestions or comments regarding this issue?
And has any one sponed to the Admins about this great idea...

I think it'll be implemented here soon

I think it'll be implemented here soon
oh, okay!

:lolb: Thanks! dont hasitate to join us once in a while... :cool43:
I tried once (kosh chinon) remember... as a matter of fact I think you were the one who corrected me then :innoc08: hmm...
У меня плохо полутчаыетса, бачим :innoc04: