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Shoshy 07-20-2005, 08:25 PM Hello fellow Boojillians!
TheSpiritualOne and I came up with a new question. To your opinion, what are the symptoms of Love? How do you know when you are in love? Is it an ultimate feeling that lasts forever, or a temporary one that fades away?
Executive 07-20-2005, 10:59 PM Hello fellow Boojillians!
TheSpiritualOne and I came up with a new question. To your opinion, what are the symptoms of Love? How do you know when you are in love? Is it an ultimate feeling that lasts forever, or a temporary one that fades away?
Different symptoms if its unilateral or if its mutual.
Shoshy 07-21-2005, 10:14 AM Different symptoms if its unilateral or if its mutual.
I agree :) can you mention some for each category?
chaya 07-21-2005, 11:30 AM Love exists when respect exists too. One can't love s/o that he/she do not respect. Love is s/t when you let go of the little things that would've bothered you. Love is when one doesn't take advantage of the other one. True love is when the feeling is mutual.
Executive 07-21-2005, 11:41 AM I agree :) can you mention some for each category?
When love is mutual (or atleast thought to be), symptoms usually are:
1. Contentment
2. Feeling of well being
3. Deep restfull sleep
4. Less food cravings
5. More self confidence
6. Clearer mind / better concentration
7. Weight gain
When love is unilateral, or one party is unsure about the other's feelings symptoms usually are:
1. Lack of appetite
2. Nervousness
3. Poor concentration
4. Restless sleep
5. Feeling of uneasiness
6. Sugar cravings at times (possible)
7. Feeling insecure
8. Weight loss
Shoshy 07-21-2005, 11:59 AM When love is mutual (or atleast thought to be), symptoms usually are:
1. Contentment
2. Feeling of well being
3. Deep restfull sleep
4. Less food cravings
5. More self confidence
6. Clearer mind / better concentration
7. Weight gain
When love is unilateral, or one party is unsure about the other's feelings symptoms usually are:
1. Lack of appetite
2. Nervousness
3. Poor concentration
4. Restless sleep
5. Feeling of uneasiness
6. Sugar cravings at times (possible)
7. Feeling insecure
8. Weight loss
Thank you.....
TheSpiritualOne 07-21-2005, 01:39 PM 1 Corinthians 13:1-13 (English-NIV)
1
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
2
If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3
If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
4
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
5
It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
6
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
7
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
9
For we know in part and we prophesy in part,
10
but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.
11
When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.
12
Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
QueenofLilies 07-21-2005, 09:26 PM When love is mutual (or atleast thought to be), symptoms usually are:
1. Contentment
2. Feeling of well being
3. Deep restfull sleep
4. Less food cravings
5. More self confidence
6. Clearer mind / better concentration
7. Weight gain
When love is unilateral, or one party is unsure about the other's feelings symptoms usually are:
1. Lack of appetite
2. Nervousness
3. Poor concentration
4. Restless sleep
5. Feeling of uneasiness
6. Sugar cravings at times (possible)
7. Feeling insecure
8. Weight loss
How is it when feeling are mutual you have less food craving and weight gain? I believe when you put two and two together, they are antonyms...
Executive 07-21-2005, 11:35 PM How is it when feeling are mutual you have less food craving and weight gain? I believe when you put two and two together, they are antonyms...
When a person is at peace, their metabolism is in anabolic state, meaning gaining muscle and using protein properly. When a person is not at peace emotionally, they tend to shift into a catabolic state which is a chronic stress state and breaks down protein faster than in synthesizes it, resulting in weight loss..
Cravings are another story. When a person is worried, they use up more the neurotransmitter seratonin (satisfaction brain chemical). Sugar/carb cravings result because the brain's seratonin levels increase following those types of foods, resulting in a feel good state of satisfaction.
Lack of appetite from nervousness comes from too much adrenaline in the gastro-intestinal system and feeding centers in the brain being inactive due to a chronic state of stress.
crispy 07-22-2005, 01:54 AM “If you have it [love],
you don't need to have anything else.
If you don't have it,
it doesn't matter much what else you do have.”
- Sir James M. Barrie –
“You don't marry a person you can live with,
you marry the person you cannot live without.”
- Unknown –
TheSpiritualOne 07-22-2005, 12:20 PM “If you have it [love],
you don't need to have anything else.
If you don't have it,
it doesn't matter much what else you do have.”
- Sir James M. Barrie –
“You don't marry a person you can live with,
you marry the person you cannot live without.”
- Unknown –
I agree from the bottom of my heart. Though it would be better if it is mutual, where both cannot imagine life without one another.
Executive 07-22-2005, 04:40 PM I agree from the bottom of my heart. Though it would be better if it is mutual, where both cannot imagine life without one another.
I agree.. Something that happens veyr rarely these days, sad to say.
Tssipa 07-23-2005, 12:41 AM Hello fellow Boojillians!
TheSpiritualOne and I came up with a new question. To your opinion, what are the symptoms of Love? How do you know when you are in love? Is it an ultimate feeling that lasts forever, or a temporary one that fades away?
i think person is happy
feels emotionally complete
can live without thinking about that person every second/independent/functional
confident/high self-esteem
Executive 07-23-2005, 12:52 AM i think person is happy
feels emotionally complete
can live without thinking about that person every second/independent/functional
confident/high self-esteem
Thats what you think now.. One day you might (and will) have all the above and realize that in life, you still need one person by your side who you absolutely trust and to be with you at all times.. As much as you crave independence and see it as a solution to everything, it is when you ultimately face dependence that you realize how important it is to have a partner for life...
Nobody is truly fuly independent and happy.. They eventually become miserably lonely..Fulfilling your ego can only take you so far until you see that, life is about sharing your experiences with another person.
As I told you before, my oppinion is that your current perception stems from the fact that you currently live among all your siblings, and haven't faced the reality of letting go of close siblings to marriage.. Being left alone with aging parents, developing the urge to have your own special someone to share life with..
Right now, you look at life differently, you want to escape the noisy zoo of a full house of annoying siblings and look at your future spouse as an unnecessary roomate that you will resent being dependent upon...
Shoshy 07-23-2005, 02:01 PM Thats what you think now.. One day you might (and will) have all the above and realize that in life, you still need one person by your side who you absolutely trust and to be with you at all times.. As much as you crave independence and see it as a solution to everything, it is when you ultimately face dependence that you realize how important it is to have a partner for life...
Nobody is truly fuly independent and happy.. They eventually become miserably lonely..Fulfilling your ego can only take you so far until you see that, life is about sharing your experiences with another person.
As I told you before, my oppinion is that your current perception stems from the fact that you currently live among all your siblings, and haven't faced the reality of letting go of close siblings to marriage.. Being left alone with aging parents, developing the urge to have your own special someone to share life with..
Right now, you look at life differently, you want to escape the noisy zoo of a full house of annoying siblings and look at your future spouse as an unnecessary roomate that you will resent being dependent upon...
I completly agree.
I think one knows that they are in love with another when they come to the conclusion that this is that one person that they feel most comfortable with, they they want to come home to, when they want to share the happiness, the pain and trouble with them, that they want to make them happy. I don't believe in the whole butterflies in the stomach and sparks going off. I think it is the actual realization that "this person makes me feel good about myself, he/she make me want to return that joy and happiness back to them."
:love14:
goldenmalach 07-24-2005, 01:09 AM “You don't marry a person you can live with,
you marry the person you cannot live without.”
- Unknown –
But what if you think you lost the person you can not live without?
Executive 07-24-2005, 11:08 AM But what if you think you lost the person you can not live without?
Then it wasn't meant to be. Let go, and move on..
OceanofMemories 07-24-2005, 11:19 AM wat about if its a good person and ur attracted to them and u enjoy spending time with them and u care about them, but u have doubts and think that u can find someone that better suits u?
wat if u want each other, but u feel that the person wants u more than u want them?
goldenmalach 07-24-2005, 11:21 AM Then it wasn't meant to be. Let go, and move on..
Hard to let go :sad17:
OceanofMemories 07-24-2005, 11:23 AM Hard to let go :sad17:
im here for u sweety.
Shoshy 07-24-2005, 11:28 AM wat about if its a good person and ur attracted to them and u enjoy spending time with them and u care about them, but u have doubts and think that u can find someone that better suits u?
wat if u want each other, but u feel that the person wants u more than u want them?
If you have doubts - its not it.........if u think that you can do better, then you probably can :)
goldenmalach 07-24-2005, 01:02 PM im here for u sweety.
Thanks :innoc04:
TheSpiritualOne 07-25-2005, 02:32 PM Hard to let go :sad17:
"And that too shall pass"
goldenmalach 07-25-2005, 06:59 PM "And that too shall pass"
Easy to say, not to do!
OceanofMemories 07-25-2005, 07:31 PM Easy to say, not to do!
give it time, it will go away.
crispy 07-25-2005, 10:52 PM Easy to say, not to do!
It's a difficult thing to cope with, but hay it seems like you have made so many friends here at boojle. You can count on our support anytime; I'll supply the tissues!
But on a serious note...íý ïý÷àëüñÿ, íý ãðóñòè
ëóáèìûè òâîè åø¸ â ïóòè!
Shoshy 07-25-2005, 10:55 PM It's a difficult thing to cope with, but hay it seems like you have made so many friends here at boojle. You can count on our support anytime; I'll supply the tissues!
But on a serious note...íý ïý÷àëüñÿ, íý ãðóñòè,
ëóáèìûè òâîè åø¸ â ïóòè!
Wise words...... :happy65:
goldenmalach 07-25-2005, 11:08 PM It's a difficult thing to cope with, but hay it seems like you have made so many friends here at boojle. You can count on our support anytime; I'll supply the tissues!
But on a serious note...íý ïý÷àëüñÿ, íý ãðóñòè
ëóáèìûè òâîè åø¸ â ïóòè!
Thanks. But I can't read in Russian, can you please translate.
crispy 07-25-2005, 11:17 PM Thanks. But I can't read in Russian, can you please translate.
Translation: don't be troubled, don't distress
your love did not yet end his quest
...he will come in due time...have no doubt
goldenmalach 07-25-2005, 11:22 PM Translation: don't be troubled, don't distress
your love did not yet end his quest
...he will come in due time...have no doubt
Thanks. :)
crispy 07-25-2005, 11:26 PM Thanks. :)
anytime hon :)
goldenmalach 07-25-2005, 11:29 PM anytime hon :)
:) :)
Executive 07-25-2005, 11:50 PM :) :)
People get a room please! lol j/k :D
Shoshy 07-26-2005, 10:54 AM People get a room please! lol j/k :D
Just trying to be supportive :)
Tssipa 07-26-2005, 11:01 AM I like that quote, "This too shall pass." I actually heard it from a patient last Friday, when i interviewd him. He said, he has it posted in his room. I remembered it myself more than once, since Friday. Sometimes the only thing that keeps me going, is just knowing that with time everything changes. May be not always to our advantage, but then we can't always have things our way, it seems. :/
TheGreatOne 07-26-2005, 03:46 PM I think that expression can be posted from the times of king Solomon, right after he, if I'm not mistaken, uttered/wrote down those precious words. :)
I like that quote, "This too shall pass." I actually heard it from a patient last Friday, when i interviewd him. He said, he has it posted in his room. I remembered it myself more than once, since Friday. Sometimes the only thing that keeps me going, is just knowing that with time everything changes. May be not always to our advantage, but then we can't always have things our way, it seems. :/
Executive 07-26-2005, 04:31 PM I like that quote, "This too shall pass." I actually heard it from a patient last Friday, when i interviewd him. He said, he has it posted in his room. I remembered it myself more than once, since Friday. Sometimes the only thing that keeps me going, is just knowing that with time everything changes. May be not always to our advantage, but then we can't always have things our way, it seems. :/
Sometimes our entires lives also pass right by, while we're waiting for something to "pass".. Yes our lives also shall pass..
goldenmalach 07-26-2005, 05:18 PM Sometimes our entires lives also pass right by, while we're waiting for something to "pass".. Yes our lives also shall pass..
I agree.
eye_squared_i 07-27-2005, 11:26 PM Hello fellow Boojillians!
TheSpiritualOne and I came up with a new question. To your opinion, what are the symptoms of Love? How do you know when you are in love? Is it an ultimate feeling that lasts forever, or a temporary one that fades away?
This question is way diffucult to answer...but I'll try.
Personally speaking....I think love fades....
my three basic rules to love....
One ) Friend Ship love, Mother Love, Love for G-d
Two) The type of love when one person loves another yet doesn't recieve the same type of love in return
Three ) "TRUE LOVE" when two people share the same type of feelings for one another and never feel otherwise.
Of course "True love" is what everyone aimes for.... some got it ... some don't...
It takes TWO to tango!
Jew4Life 07-28-2005, 10:16 AM This question is way diffucult to answer...but I'll try.
Personally speaking....I think love fades....
my three basic rules to love....
One ) Friend Ship love, Mother Love, Love for G-d
Two) The type of love when one person loves another yet doesn't recieve the same type of love in return
Three ) "TRUE LOVE" when two people share the same type of feelings for one another and never feel otherwise.
Of course "True love" is what everyone aimes for.... some got it ... some don't...
It takes TWO to tango!
I liek your answer... :happy05:
MortgageBanker 08-02-2005, 08:47 PM Hello fellow Boojillians!
TheSpiritualOne and I came up with a new question. To your opinion, what are the symptoms of Love? How do you know when you are in love? Is it an ultimate feeling that lasts forever, or a temporary one that fades away?
Slovo Lubov' predumali russkie shtobi deneg ne platit' :D :kiss2:
Shoshy 08-02-2005, 08:49 PM Slovo Lubov' predumali russkie shtobi deneg ne platit' :D :kiss2:
Why do you say that?
TheSpiritualOne 08-02-2005, 11:35 PM Why do you say that?
shosh he is trying to hint that they ZzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzz for free b/c women are dumb enough to believe them.
Shoshy 08-02-2005, 11:38 PM shosh he is trying to hint that they ZzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzz for free b/c women are dumb enough to believe them.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! see, my naive mind did not come across that thought....
QueenofLilies 08-03-2005, 02:38 AM Symptoms of love is when you think of being together incessantly, many times during te day. When you can't imagine living withouttht person, I know these sound like songs that have been sung a million times, but, if you look into it, they are very true.
Jew4Life 08-03-2005, 10:14 AM shosh he is trying to hint that they ZzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzz for free
i like you ZzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzz business... :D
b/c women are dumb enough to believe them. Kharasho shto priznayosh'sya! :happy05:
TheSpiritualOne 08-03-2005, 01:57 PM i like you ZzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzz business... :D
Kharasho shto priznayosh'sya! :happy05:
oh trust me... men are definately included in the dumb category... men can greatly fall due to their desire for a beautiful woman.
Shoshy 08-03-2005, 02:00 PM oh trust me... men are definately included in the dumb category... men can greatly fall due to their desire for a beautiful woman.
True words spoken!!!!!
TheSpiritualOne 08-03-2005, 02:03 PM True words spoken!!!!!
yes... Shimshon... David...
MortgageBanker 08-03-2005, 08:24 PM Why do you say that?
I am saying that Love doesnt always exist, allot of people confuse this with other things. And whatever was mationed above, is also true :kiss2:
MortgageBanker 08-03-2005, 08:25 PM oh trust me... men are definately included in the dumb category... men can greatly fall due to their desire for a beautiful woman.
Dumb men will definately fall for this, so please do not generelise :cerenad:
TheSpiritualOne 08-04-2005, 02:47 PM Dumb men will definately fall for this, so please do not generelise :cerenad:
as long as you stay smart.
Jew4Life 08-04-2005, 02:53 PM oh trust me... men are definately included in the dumb category... men can greatly fall due to their desire for a beautiful woman.
come one, many of you girls have taht in you as well... :innoc04:
Jew4Life 08-04-2005, 02:54 PM yes... Shimshon... David...
are they your ex's or your current partners... ;) :happy05:
Shoshy 08-04-2005, 05:28 PM are they your ex's or your current partners... ;) :happy05:
I belive these are figures from the bible and from her life :) :love70:
MortgageBanker 08-04-2005, 08:16 PM as long as you stay smart.
No doubt
Valerie 08-17-2005, 01:15 AM Hello fellow Boojillians!
TheSpiritualOne and I came up with a new question. To your opinion, what are the symptoms of Love? How do you know when you are in love? Is it an ultimate feeling that lasts forever, or a temporary one that fades away?
Love is NOT a feeling or an emotion, it’s an active behavior. Unfortunately it’s too often believed that love is a sensation that is based on physical and/or emotional attraction, that magically/spontaneously generates when Mr. /Ms. Right appears. So think about it, if the above were true, then it (love) would just as easily and spontaneously degenerate when the magic “just isn’t there” anymore. You fall in love; you easily fall out of love.
Love as it is portrayed these days, is riddled with false expectations. The media romanticizes the whole concept of love, relationships and life all together -- as an endless merry go-round of passion and fun.
Love is a choice; it does NOT develop in our unconscious. It involves consciously understanding gender differences, practicing mutual respect, patience, compassion, forgiveness and willingness to grow and learn. It also involves sacrifice of one’s independence and/or desires for the sake of “love”. Love is the attachment that results from deeply appreciating another’s goodness, which doesn’t impulsively occur, one has to actively make it happen, by focusing on an individual’s goodness.
“There is hardly any activity, any enterprise, which is started with such tremendous hopes and expectations, and yet, which fails so regularly, as love” (Erich Fromm, in his famous treatise The Art of Loving.)
yitzel4ritzel 08-17-2005, 08:59 AM Love is NOT a feeling or an emotion, it’s an active behavior. Unfortunately it’s too often believed that love is a sensation that is based on physical and/or emotional attraction, that magically/spontaneously generates when Mr. /Ms. Right appears. So think about it, if the above were true, then it (love) would just as easily and spontaneously degenerate when the magic “just isn’t there” anymore. You fall in love; you easily fall out of love.
Love as it is portrayed these days, is riddled with false expectations. The media romanticizes the whole concept of love, relationships and life all together -- as an endless merry go-round of passion and fun.
Love is a choice; it does NOT develop in our unconscious. It involves consciously understanding gender differences, practicing mutual respect, patience, compassion, forgiveness and willingness to grow and learn. It also involves sacrifice of one’s independence and/or desires for the sake of “love”. Love is the attachment that results from deeply appreciating another’s goodness, which doesn’t impulsively occur, one has to actively make it happen, by focusing on an individual’s goodness.
“There is hardly any activity, any enterprise, which is started with such tremendous hopes and expectations, and yet, which fails so regularly, as love” (Erich Fromm, in his famous treatise The Art of Loving.)
love is not a feeling or an emotion??
i think its just the opposite.....its both and much more
where do feelings and emotions come from? the soul
thats why most people believe they are in love with their "soulmates"
i agree that sometimes people believe they are in love but in truth what they are is attracted...so im not sayin that if u just feel for someone ur in love
u gotta feel for someone so much that you would be willing to do anything for him or her...u gotta care for someone more then urself, miss them every second he or she is away
so if u would say that love is not a feeling or emotion i would strongly disagree with u
Jew4Life 08-17-2005, 10:23 AM I belive these are figures from the bible and from her life :) :love70:
I see... :innoc08:
TheSpiritualOne 08-17-2005, 12:03 PM love is not a feeling or an emotion??
i think its just the opposite.....its both and much more
where do feelings and emotions come from? the soul
thats why most people believe they are in love with their "soulmates"
i agree that sometimes people believe they are in love but in truth what they are is attracted...so im not sayin that if u just feel for someone ur in love
u gotta feel for someone so much that you would be willing to do anything for him or her...u gotta care for someone more then urself, miss them every second he or she is away
so if u would say that love is not a feeling or emotion i would strongly disagree with u
i agree with you 100%
Aragorn 08-17-2005, 04:38 PM Love is NOT a feeling or an emotion, it’s an active behavior.
What??? Are you trying to say that love is not an emotion but only a thought? Explain please.
Here are dictionary definitions of love:
1. A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness.
2. A feeling of intense desire and attraction toward a person with whom one is disposed to make a pair; the emotion of sex and romance
Valerie 08-17-2005, 11:29 PM love is not a feeling or an emotion??
i think its just the opposite.....its both and much more
where do feelings and emotions come from? the soul
thats why most people believe they are in love with their "soulmates"
i agree that sometimes people believe they are in love but in truth what they are is attracted...so im not sayin that if u just feel for someone ur in love
u gotta feel for someone so much that you would be willing to do anything for him or her...u gotta care for someone more then urself, miss them every second he or she is away
so if u would say that love is not a feeling or emotion i would strongly disagree with u
True, there are feelings involved before one proclaims to "love" someone, or be "in love", but where do those feelings stem from? An individual has to acquaint him/herself with the other person, then by getting to know her (use of pronoun is for arguments sake), he identifies with her ideals, goals, aspirations. This is the process of focusing on her goodness. Then as he feels more comfortable with her he starts to open up, share with her, and give more and more of himself. Love develops as a result of contribution, for the sake of unity, to any relationship.
For example, "love" between mother and child, I'm sure we can all agree is unconditional, that’s b/c the more a mother instills in her child, devotes and pours her heart and soul to that precious being, expecting no gain at all, the more love is generated in that relationship. So you see, love is a concept that has been misused for centuries, and nowadays the term in its true meaning is so misconstrued, that people get married of this false expectation that results from this feeling so many call “love”.
Valerie 08-17-2005, 11:34 PM What??? Are you trying to say that love is not an emotion but only a thought? Explain please.
not a thought but an action, a behavior.
Here are dictionary definitions of love:
1. A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness.
2. A feeling of intense desire and attraction toward a person with whom one is disposed to make a pair; the emotion of sex and romance
If Shohy was looking for a dictionary definition of Love she would have opened up a Websters, or an Oxford; but this question was posted on the forum for a simple reason, to make one think beyond what is dictated by the mass media and entertainment.
Valerie 08-17-2005, 11:39 PM i agree with you 100%
TSO, you disagree with me?
its just as well, I guess I'll have to hold on to that book longer :tongue10:
Aragorn 08-17-2005, 11:57 PM not a thought but an action, a behavior.
So you are saying that if you do something good to someone, for example if you give your quest food and drink and act in a manner of hospitality but you feel indifferent towards him or even deep down despise him you would consider that an act of love? That as long as you do something generous it does not matter how you feel towards that person?
Valerie 08-18-2005, 12:03 AM So you are saying that if you do something good to someone, for example if you give your quest food and drink and act in a manner of hospitality but you feel indifferent towards him or even deep down despise him you would consider that an act of love? That as long as you do something generous it does not matter how you feel towards that person?
That is correct my brother. Although you took an extreme approach, but the fact still holds true, the more you do good, the more appreciation will evolve, and inevitably .... well u know the rest.
Aragorn 08-18-2005, 12:10 AM That is correct my brother. Although you took an extreme approach, but the fact still holds true, the more you do good, the more appreciation will evolve, and inevitably .... well u know the rest.
Do you know that this kind of love is very unhealthy for a relationship. Did you know that a couple which never has fights or conficts but each does everything that other parter wants despite his or hers deep down hatered towards another eventually break up. Those people who mask their bad emotions behind good actions are the most dangerous people. They are like snakes. They do good actions just only because of selfish motives.
Anyways why would you want to have a husband towards who you would not feel any emotional attachment?
Executive 08-18-2005, 12:17 AM Do you know that this kind of love is very unhealthy for a relationship. Did you know that a couple which never has fights or conficts but each does everything that other parter wants despite his or hers deep down hatered towards another eventually break up. Those people who mask their bad emotions behind good actions are the most dangerous people. They are like snakes. They do good actions just only because of selfish motives.
We finally agree on something :). Molodets, this is very true.
Valerie 08-18-2005, 12:19 AM Do you know that this kind of love is very unhealthy for a relationship. Did you know that a couple which never has fights or conficts but each does everything that other parter wants despite his or hers deep down hatered towards another eventually break up. Those people who mask their bad emotions behind good actions are the most dangerous people. They are like snakes. They do good actions just only because of selfish motives.
I never memtioned to get involved in a relationship that is founded on a facade. There is no reason to mask emotions or thoughts. I was merely explaining the concept of "love". You brought up an extreme example of involving yourselves in "generous" actions to one whom you despise. Yes, it is possible to at first lessesn feelings of hatred towards that person by good actions, and then finally developing a some sort of liking. However, I for one, do not encourage such a relationship for means of love. Perhaps, such a relationship is classic of a bad employer and employee relationship. :innoc08:
Aragorn 08-18-2005, 12:32 AM I never memtioned to get involved in a relationship that is founded on a facade. There is no reason to mask emotions or thoughts. I was merely explaining the concept of "love". You brought up an extreme example of involving yourselves in "generous" actions to one whom you despise. Yes, it is possible to at first lessesn feelings of hatred towards that person by good actions, and then finally developing a some sort of liking. However, I for one, do not encourage such a relationship for means of love. Perhaps, such a relationship is classic of a bad employer and employee relationship. :innoc08:
But answer my question. Would you want to have such "love" (as you defined) between you and your husband, where you do good actions for him and hoping that eventually you will like him or have feelings for him. Why would you marry him in a first place. Is it because he has power, money etc and you want to benefit from that?
Valerie 08-18-2005, 12:40 AM But answer my question. Would you want to have such "love" (as you defined) between you and your husband, where you do good actions for him and hoping that eventually you will like him or have feelings for him. Why would you marry him in a first place. Is it because he has power, money etc and you want to benefit from that?
Nowhere in my defintion have I stated that the goal of love is to "do good actions for him and hoping that eventually [you] will like him or have feelings for him".
As I've stated before, love is a choice, so I do not choose such love. I choose to actively work and achieve such love involves reciprocity.
Aragorn 08-18-2005, 12:59 AM Nowhere in my defintion have I stated that the goal of love is to "do good actions for him and hoping that eventually [you] will like him or have feelings for him".
As I've stated before, love is a choice, so I do not choose such love. I choose to actively work and achieve such love involves reciprocity.
Read my post again. I said that accourding to your definition of "love" (that love is not an emotion or feeling but actively doing something for a person) it follows that you should do good actions for him and hoping that eventually you will like him or have feelings for him. Or maybe you will never like him because in your definition you implied that love needs no feelings.
Valerie 08-18-2005, 01:10 AM Read my post again. I said that accourding to your definition of "love" (that love is not an emotion or feeling but actively doing something for a person) it follows that you should do good actions for him and hoping that eventually you will like him or have feelings for him. Or maybe you will never like him because in your definition you implied that love needs no feelings.
the last part is entirely your assumption that you have added to my "definition". I have never stated the following: "hoping that eventually you will like him or have feelings for him."
hope is the most dangerous 4 letter word, that reserves an enormous amount of room for disappointment and unjustified failure.
Valerie 08-18-2005, 01:15 AM Read my post again. I said that accourding to your definition of "love" (that love is not an emotion or feeling but actively doing something for a person) it follows that you should do good actions for him and hoping that eventually you will like him or have feelings for him. Or maybe you will never like him because in your definition you implied that love needs no feelings.
seems like you are only concentrating on the few words of my previous post that you want to collaborate with your theory. I suggest you go back to my very first post of this thread, and try to read through beyond just the first sentence. And if you still cant seem to comprehend my theory, then refer to TGO's disclaimer. :tongue10:
Aragorn 08-18-2005, 01:31 AM seems like you are only concentrating on the few words of my previous post that you want to collaborate with your theory.
I am concentrating on your first sentace of your first post because that is the root of the problem of your theory.
And if you still cant seem to comprehend my theory, then refer to TGO's disclaimer.
First of all do you have something more original to say?
Second of all I am not trying to comprehend your theory. I understood it. I am just proving how your theory is full of contradictions. And if you are still not convinced how you theory is illogical then I rest my case.
yitzel4ritzel 08-18-2005, 08:25 AM True, there are feelings involved before one proclaims to "love" someone, or be "in love", but where do those feelings stem from?
i already said that feelings come from the soul...
An individual has to acquaint him/herself with the other person, then by getting to know her (use of pronoun is for arguments sake), he identifies with her ideals, goals, aspirations. This is the process of focusing on her goodness. Then as he feels more comfortable with her he starts to open up, share with her, and give more and more of himself. Love develops as a result of contribution, for the sake of unity, to any relationship.
thats true, but what about your friends?? i have my guy friends and i open up to them and i feel comfortable with them and i focus on their goodness too, but i hope to g-d that it doesnt means im in love wit them...i even have girl friends that i do the same with but they are my friends and its just not that type of love
my opinion is that if you act or "behave" toward that person u gotta add some feelings into it in order to actually love
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